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Hi all,

Had the closure surgery last January (IPAA, 3 ops, for UC). Have given it over a year now to “settle down”. But my life is awful.

I need to go literally all the time. There is not one second, day or night, when I don’t need to go to the toilet. And it’s not tenesmus - the poo is there.

I get blockages. Passing is painful a lot of the time.

I can’t work. I can’t sleep. I can’t go out. I can’t see friends. I can’t have sex. I literally can’t do anything but nap and shit.

My life feels like a living hell. Like purgatory.

I am a qualified lawyer from the UK, with a place to study at an Ivy League law school this year. I can’t see even remotely how I can possibly now make that happen, or even work, or have a relationship or family life or any kind of social life.

Please help. Is anyone able to live anything resembling a normal life with this horrible disease and horrible anatomy?

Thanks,

C

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This sounds awful, @Carwyn - I’m sorry you’re going through it. Most J-pouchers have an excellent quality of life, so something is clearly wrong here. Do you have a knowledgeable gastroenterologist or colorectal surgeon you are working with to figure out what the problem is (and to work out a solution)? At this stage it’s very unlikely that it’s going to fix itself.

Scott F

Hi Carwyn,

I feel terribly for you.  This disease is awful, however, the vast majority of people do well with a JPouch, so there is definitely room for improvement.  I assume that you have spoken to your surgeon and gastroenterologist.  What is their assessment?  What medicines have you been on since the completion of the JPouch?  I just wanted to get a baseline of what your doctors are saying.  We are here to support you. Doug

DK

Hello,

I would also like to tell you we are here for you. Many of us, including myself have been exactly where you are right now; which I called it hell on earth.

Like Doug said, if you can give us some more information as to your medicines, diet etc, we can give you our best collective experiences and hopefully offer some helpful advice.

I continue to read and post to this site because the people here are supportive and wonderful and really truly want to be helpful.

Hang in there

eric

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I'm a year and five months out from takedown and I went back to a manual job two months later.I go fishing out at sea .

I find walking helps slot,I try doing 10000 steps a day even if I have to use the local public toilets along the way. and psyllium husk ,coffee,peppermint tea.sudocrem once a day after showering.and I eat as little sugar as possible.

This is just what I do.everybody is different and you probably need to see medical staff.

C

Dear @Carwyn I'm so sorry to hear about your unimaginably difficult circumstances. No one should have to suffer like this or accept an outcome like this. I would echo what others have said - please speak with your gastroenterologist and your surgeon for an evaluation. Many of us had a difficult start. After my takedown 31 years ago, it took me a year to adjust to life with a pouch and had a number of complications--my situation looked much like yours for the first four months or so--but things gradually improved - through prescription medication initially, through diet, through fiber supplements, through the judicious use of immodium. My heart goes out to you. But your medical team needs to step up to the plate, diagnose the source of these issues, and identify solutions that will allow you to return to full participation in all the things that life can hold. We're here for you - this forum is a great place for support. Lean on us and take good care of yourself. Please let us know how it's going. Sending healing thoughts across the pond.

P

I hear you, I ve had simmilar problems in months following my J pouch surgery in 2007. It was trial and error which foods to eat. I found eating bland foods and little fibre and more soups helped a lot.  I wore pads for leaks . Sat in the bath with epsdom salts and alternating with Himalayan salts. I would only eat soluble fibre , little fruits, bananas and apples would block me . Rememebr your intestines are stil healing . Early days. I would go for walks every day but never overdid it. Its convalescing time still months afterwards.

It all settled into a rythm within 7-9 months for me. Give it time. A year later I was having sex again , swimming, working dancing , you name it- normal life returned. I still need to be mindful when and what to eat if I dont go to the toilet too often but i eat everything now with no problems - years on.

I hope your situation improves over time but if not seek medical advice to check everything is functioning as it should.

Take care of yourself

Martiangirl

Hey Carwyn,

I'm very sorry you're struggling. You're not alone. It's difficult to end up with a poor outcome after the whole process we went through, and after being told that colectomy will cure our UC and all will be great with the pouch.

I just hit one year since takedown and have never had good pouch function. I have difficulty emptying, a prolapse and a persistent sinus tract that has now turned into osteomyelitis (bone infection in my sacrum). Just got the PICC out after 6 weeks of IV antibiotics.

Your comment about wondering how you will progress in your career reminds me of myself. I was in the last 2 years of training (medical) when I was hospitalized for an urgent colectomy. I was inpatient for 5 weeks and missed 3 months of work surrounding that initial surgery, then returned to work with an end ileo. I delayed stage 2 hoping I could complete training. I made it a year until the UC flare in the remaining stump forced the second stage. I felt very good with the end ileo and could finally focus on work. It was a big disappointment to take time off to go through stage 2 but figured I would get it over with.  Unfortunately, all hell broke loose and I had numerous complications after stage 2, spending 60 days in the hospital between 2 and 3. That was a very dark period and I thought there is no way I'll complete my program and ever get a job.

I managed to get my dream job while still out on leave recovering from takedown. I went to the interview at 98 lbs swimming in my suit :-), pretending to each at the lunch I was taken out to.  During the past year since takedown I've managed to finish training while trying to deal with the sinus tract and infection. I go to work with various lines in, with the VNA coming on the weekends to change dressings. I'm constantly told that I'm the youngest patient on their panel which is supported by the literature they leave showing happy 80 yr olds! It's a weird existence but the other option is not to do it. I recently finished training and started my new position and this current infection has me again wondering if I'll ever be able to do this. To succeed in the career I've invested the last 12 years pursuing. Adding to the worry and guilt is the knowledge that I if I am out sick, I will now burden my colleagues who will have to take care of my panel while I'm gone. So I find myself drifting back into the same mindset as a year ago.

BUT, I wanted to say to you that you will likely surprise yourself in what you can accomplish. I've found that worrying about future complications and hypothetical failures just adds to the stress and causes paralysis. Try to stay in the present and do what you can today, this week. Don't turn down opportunities because you can't imagine succeeding. If you start and discover you can't physically/mentally do it, that's ok. You will be your biggest critic while those around you will be infinitely more understanding. We don't talk a lot on this site about how to navigate professional advancement which can be severely impacted by this disease. The no sex, no sleep, limited diet sucks but so does a young career interrupted and derailed.

I don't want to sound like I've figured all of this out. As I said, the fear of getting sicker and not being able to continue the slog is real. My strategy is to set shorter term goals than many of my colleagues. I'm also considering ditching the pouch and returning to the bag but can't imaging taking time off to do so right now. I do view it as a viable option though.

I wish you the best in your career and say go for it. Accept the position at the Ivy League institution. Better to do it in a fragmented, holding on my your fingertips fashion than not at all!

P

Thanks so much, everyone, for your incredibly kind messages. You’re amazing people. I’m so sorry I haven’t replied yet. I did go to see my surgeon after you guys recommended it, and he recommended psyllium and far more loperamide. I’ve been taking those and it’s helped somewhat. Life is still pretty hellish, though, as I’m still trying to figure out what and when I can eat - still having terrible sleep etc.

I just wanted to say thank you for now and I will reply properly to all your kind messages soon! Every day is still quite a struggle, so it’s hard to find the time and energy to be social!

I really hope you’re all doing well.

Carwyn

C

Hi guys, I’m so sorry it’s taken me so long to reply properly and thank you for your kindness. Your replies really helped at a dark time. I hope you’re all doing great.

It turns out I have antibiotic-dependent pouchitis (still in the process of clearing it, very early days)… we’ll see how this pans out . Nonetheless I did go and pursue the degree and although it’s been indescribably tough I’m half-way through! Wish me luck!

Would be amazing to hear the cool things you guys are up to/have done in the past year - always amazing to hear the stories of fellow j-pouchers as you guys are the most resilient people I’ve encountered 💪🏼

Cheers,

Carwyn

C

Pouchitis is the worst!  And lack of any decent sleep just compounds everything so much more. I hope you get the right combo of meds and things start to get easier for you. I used to be able to rely on metronidazole to help me navigate pouchitis but not having the best luck with it at the moment.

Good luck with your degree!

Claire x

cbear
@Carwyn posted:

Hi all,

Had the closure surgery last January (IPAA, 3 ops, for UC). Have given it over a year now to “settle down”. But my life is awful.

I need to go literally all the time. There is not one second, day or night, when I don’t need to go to the toilet. And it’s not tenesmus - the poo is there.

I get blockages. Passing is painful a lot of the time.

I can’t work. I can’t sleep. I can’t go out. I can’t see friends. I can’t have sex. I literally can’t do anything but nap and shit.

My life feels like a living hell. Like purgatory.

I am a qualified lawyer from the UK, with a place to study at an Ivy League law school this year. I can’t see even remotely how I can possibly now make that happen, or even work, or have a relationship or family life or any kind of social life.

Please help. Is anyone able to live anything resembling a normal life with this horrible disease and horrible anatomy?

Thanks,

C

Hi!

sounds like a lot that I’ve been going through since my illeostomy takedown surgery in September. I found that when I take Metamucil 1-2x per day and pop Imodium multi-symptom medicine like tic-tacs (8-10 per day) I’m able to function as normally as I can. I’m able to live, work, sex etc.

Also it feels like my anus is on fire or I’m passing shards of glass. I found that taken a Sitz bath 2-3x a day for 10-15 minutes really helps. I make the water as hot as I can tolerate. You can find a sitz bath basin on Amazon for around $25-30.

hope this helps, UC is a horrible condition.

~Andy

AndyY

Hi Carwyn,

I am glad to read you were able to get some improvement for your situation.

2022 has been a year of healing for me, and I leave the year in better shape than when I entered it.

I, like everyone else here, have a routine, when followed, gives me a pretty good quality of life.

i do wish I could do without all of the pills, the creams, the baby wipes, the bidet, eating times, eating quantities, but sadly any deviation reduces quality of life.

I am grateful for all of my progress and I hope 2023 bring health and continued QOL to everyone!!

Eric

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