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Hi everyone,

Would anyone be willing to share info, stories, experiences with pouch excision, especially after more than 25 years?  I've read horror stories and others who seemed to "breeze" through.  I know everyone is different, but I'm to the point where I'm thinking about excision.  My pouch will be 27 years old in July and I've had long periods where things have been good.  But, I've had multiple abcesses, a perforation that almost killed me in 2012, fistulas, obstructions, lysis of adhesions, stricture at anastamosis, multiple 20 day hospital stays... Was on Remicade in 2012 for 2.5 years until I developed antibodies.  Didn't start a different biologic.  My new GI doc is very proactive and said she thinks that I may have been "undertreated and undermonitored".  I went 4 years without a pouchoscopy.  I've been with my colorectal doc since the beginning.  I've always believed that whatever he said was "golden".  If he wasn't worried, then I was relieved.  He's always told me that whatever was ailing me was caused by adhesions. The GI doc, who I saw on and off over the years that the pain I had was "nuisance pain" and there was nothing I could do for it.   I'm tired physically and emotionally. Had a calprotectin test last month, level was 419, CPR normal, SED rate 35. Had pouchoscopy today.  stricture at the anastomosis and pouch is inflamed. Waiting for biopsies to see what's going on.  I just turned 60 and getting to the point where I'm over of feeling sick,in pain, tired, and worried that it will just get more complicated the older I get.  Thoughts would be greatly appreciated.  THANKS!!!

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It sounds like you have an untreated stricture and untreated pouch inflammation. Have I got that right? Anyone would feel terrible with just one of those. If possible I’d suggest trying to make major decisions about your pouch when it’s being properly attended to. In any case, I hope you feel better and have good luck with whatever decision you make.

Scott F

Hi Joey, sorry to hear of all your issues.  I had my jpouch removed after about 24 yrs.  I was 62-ish.  Had it disconnected first, due to a septic abscess and fistulas, and then a yr. later had it removed.  There were a couple setbacks, such as an ileus, but I recovered sooner than I had expected.  I've been with my ileostomy since '17 (revised in '18 with the removal).  Things are now good, I have no regrets.  I had it done at the Cleveland Clinic.  I sorta recorded my removal on this discussion:  https://www.j-pouch.org/topic/...al-date-and-time-set.  You may find others' experiences on that same ostomy forum.  Best of luck, and if you'd like to ask any questions, I'd be happy to try to answer.

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Joey, if you feel better on Cipro then IMO you should be on Cipro. It’s not a perfect medication, but it’s served me well for 14 years of continuous use. With it I live a comfortable and unrestricted life, including activities like scuba diving and kayaking. Without Cipro I would be incontinent and perhaps considering pouch excision. If my doctor were too narrow-minded to understand that trade-off then I would find a new doctor.

Scott F

I had my J pouch for 30 years and needed to have it removed due to recurrent high grade dysplasia and a cancerous polyp in the anal canal.  I had a second opinion at a major medical center and the surgeon said I was a high surgical risk and recommended an ileostomy, that I strongly did not want due to its associated issues.  I was turned down by two leading continent pouch surgeons, but accepted by a third to get a BCIR.  The surgery took several hours longer than normal due to the presence of many adhesions and was successful.  I was 68 at the time of surgery and have now had the BCIR for 9 years with no problems. The article I published in The Phoenix magazine should be of interest.  Its link is:  https://secureservercdn.net/19...chingMyOptions-1.pdf  Please feel free to message me if you have any questions.

BillV

Hey Joey it really sounds like your new GI is on top of things and probably has some good suggestions for trying to address your pouch issues rather than just taking it out.  I have ongoing inflammation and strictures, and it isn’t fun sometimes, but all in all I have a very normal life with my pouch.  I’m on Entyvio to keep inflammation under control, and do a 2x/year dilation with a balloon scope/pouchoscopy.  I’d encourage you to try out some options , especially as you’ve seen benefit from other meds like Cipro.  I bet you could see a lot of relief with some management.

L

If Cipro makes you feel better, but doc doesn't want to prescribe long term because of black box warnings, it might be worth asking about Rifaximin.  Unlike other antibiotics it isn't systemically absorbed. So if it works, you can stay on it without worrying about side effects. It is expensive; my first prescriptions were filled through a specialty pharmacy with no co-pay, though. And now I am ordering through a Canadian pharmacy at a tolerable cost (thanks to a tip from a member in this site.)

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