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I had my pouch done in 1995 by Dr. Fazio at the Cleveland Clinic. I went through many years of chronic pouchitis and tried many treatments that did little or nothing to help. The only thing that worked was long-term antibiotic treatment (Cipro). My goal was to get off of the Cipro and I was able to do that several years ago. I also suffered with chronic sores in my mouth and throat which was attributed to IBD (Crohn's) but that has also subsided. I am experiencing the best functioning of the pouch that I've ever had in terms of frequency, consistency, etc. and I can eat almost anything that I want, although I do eat a fairly healthy diet. I always seem to have some inflammation or "enteritis" in and around my pouch when I get my annual exam. Last year when I was "scoped" I was found to have a stricture which was dilated. I was told by Dr. Shen to not take over-the-counter anti-inflammatories like Aleeve and Motrin, don't lift anything over 25 pounds and stop taking testosterone. I have been weightlifting since receiving the pouch almost 20 years ago. No one ever told me not to do this in the past so I'm wondering why it is a problem now. This leads me to wonder about the long-term viability of the pouch. Does anyone have a long-term experience like mine or longer and if so, what has your experience been. Sorry for the long-winded post, but I wanted to put the details out there to see if anyone has had a similar experience. Thanks.
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I only take Tylenol.......stay away from NSAIDS.

As for not lifting over 25 pounds, that's crazy. I've NEVER heard that or why. Obviously if your fresh out of surgery, you need to give your body time to heal and that makes sense, but, this far out from surgery.......not logical and makes no sense!

Is there something else going on?
I'd be very curious what his "reasons" are for no lifting over 25#. I've NEVER heard that, ever. It makes no sense. Good lord, I've been lifting well over 4 times that amount for the past 10 years and have NO issues!

I'd really like to hear what his "reasons" are.......from what I "know" of Shen, he's a solid doctor but that makes NO logical sense at all.
I am going to give a rather un-medical response to the question of how much pouchers can or cannot lift.
I have a k pouch (predecessor of the J pouch with a stoma/valve that exits low on the abdomen)...I have had my pouch for almost 35yrs.
When my pouch was built my surgeon gave me very few instructions on the day-to-day care and maintenance...it was all common sense and a few do's and don'ts like always use lube to intubate my pouch ( I gave that up by yr 2...big mistake) and don't lift heavy weights (I was a power lifter before pouch surgery) so I blissfully disregarded almost everything that I was told once I felt better.
I moved here and lived in a 8 storey walk-up with no elevator in the building and me carrying all of my furniture, groceries etc up and down those stairs for 3 yrs..then the other apt with a 3 storey walk-up for 20 yrs.
I walked miles to and from the farmer's market with all of my groceries in bags hanging off of my hands, arm and shoulders...
I was invincible...then I ended up with the 1st of 6 hernias..It was over 20yrs post pouch but still, once it started it never stopped...hernia after hernia..rip after rip of the abdominal wall.
The fact is that Some of us are more fragile than others and some are stronger Now...but...and here is the but...we all get older and age even if we do not feel like we do...and our bodies age even if we don't notice it and that is when the "rules" matter. What you do or did when you are/were young does have an effect on you and your pouch as you get older.
I believed that once my pouch was healed the problems were over and done with...it never occurred to me that all of that carrying and lifting that I thought was building muscle and making me stronger was actually, at some level, hurting my pouch over time.
You may be one of the lucky ones and never have a problem but you may be one of those who gets more fragile over the years and have problems.
This is just experience talking and not a medical opinion.
Sharon
There is a difference between restoring normal testosterone levels, and using it to boost performance and/or for body building.

The former is prescribed for a medical condition, the latter is not a sanctioned use, but common in the body building/sports enhancement field. Long term use in this way leads to damaging effects.

As for the lifting, Dr. Shen has seen pouch rupture associated with lifting in his clinic. But, I have not seen documentation noting this extreme lifting admonition in the literature. Time will tell, I suppose.

Jan Smiler

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