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Hello,

 

I am new here. I joined a while ago, but only started posting today. 

I wondered if anyone has had this surgery and has any tips.

I know that it's better to have the pouch removed, if possible, but that is not an option for me.

I had my pouch created due to FAP and stage III bowel cancer, just over four years ago. It worked quite well to begin with. But I've gradually developed various problems. 

I had finally come round to the idea of having my pouch removed when a routine CT scan last year found that my cancer had recurred. I am currently undergoing chemotherapy, which is aggravating my pouch even more.

My surgeon has agreed to create a permanent ileostomy, but he does not feel I am fit enough for an excision.

I was so pleased that my surgeon had agreed to the ileostomy that my mind went blank and I didn't ask any useful questions. 

I have found all the posts on here about pouch removal etc very helpful, but haven't found much discussion of leaving the pouch in situ, nor have I been able to find much about this elsewhere on the Internet.  

In particular I wondered whether anyone had any experience of an end ileostomy in this scenario. I've heard that it is possible. But is the pouch just sealed off at the top? I had a temporary loop ileostomy after my initial surgery and it had some problems because it was pulled quite tight by the other end being connected to the pouch. I wondered if an end ileostomy might be easier. I will discuss this with my surgeon at my next appointment, but I'd like to be prepared with possible questions, research etc.

Sorry, this post is getting rather long. I wanted to include all the relevant information. Thank you if you have got this far!

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PeskyPouch,

Not sure if this information will be helpful to you, or not, but I have a 20 year old pouch and was diagnosed with cancer (ovarian) almost a year ago. I can tell you that I came very close to asking for my pouch to be removed when I was going through chemotherapy. It was HELL on my pouch. But now, 4 months post chemo, my pouch is doing much better. 

Any which way, I wish you all the best. There are people on this site who leave the pouch in and have no problems with it. Others tried leaving it in and decided later to remove it. And still others had the pouch removed when they went to a permanent ileostomy. Anything is possible. 

Stay strong during chemo. I know how hard it is!

c-jay

Hi *CJB* and thank you for your reply. 

I hope your cancer treatment has been successful.

Whilst the recent chemo is contributing to the problems, they started about nine months after my takedown and I have had ups and downs ever since. My surgeon considers the pouch to have failed. So I think it's definitely the right option for me to have it diverted now while I'm fit ish. 

I coped through the chemo first time round as there was an end in sight. But now the cancer is incurable so I'll be having ongoing treatment for the remainder of my life. I think it will be much easier to cope with that without the pouch issues on top. 

Thank you again for your reply and I hope that your pouch continues to improve following the chemo x

I had surgery to divert my stool to a permanent ileostomy 6 months before I decided to have ,you j-pouch removed. My Mayo Clinic surgeon said this would give me more options.  The permanent ileostomy is night and day better than from the temp one! But it takes a while to get used to. You might want to read in the ileostomy topic here.

The hope is that by resting your j-pouch it will heal. Then they might take your ileo down to your j-pouch after it heals.

My surgeon also said the surgery to remove the j-pouch is worse than the surgery to create it. I can see why they don't want to put you thru removing it at this time. She only schedules one surgery the day she removes them  My surgery was over 8 hours but she spent 3 of them dealing with my adhesions and scars. 

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