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I am in desperate need of a GREAT colo-rectal surgeon in Atlanta. I've lived here all my life, and my previous surgeon moved away, and unfortunately I am currently in need of one to address a situation that cannot wait. My pelvic cavity from when my jpouch was removed 2 years ago has never healed, and in recent months, has gotten so much worse, and needs to be addressed. It is a long, complicated, and pretty big surgery I am embarking upon, and me not having my surgeon of over 20 yrs. anymore who knows my whole history, I feel so lost and its overwhelming just doing google searches and reading reviews of patients online of Atlanta colo-rectal surgeons and such different pros and cons.
PLease, please, please, if anyone highly reccommends any colo0-rectal surgeon in the ATL area, please respond-I have already heard of Dr. Jay Singh, and Dr. Ambroze, etc. and maybe that's all there is, but pass along any great ones you know of from a skilled standpoint as well as personable if possible.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!
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Just throwing it out there again! This is a "for real" 'Help Need Advice Now!' Question btw-I have emailed former acquaintances that have been drug reps for IBD drugs familiar with different colo-rectal surgeons in Atlanta, researched and posted on other forums with same inquiry, and researched drs in Atlanta reading countless patient reviews (vitals, kudzu, compare health, etc) bringing several contrasting opinions, and my condition is rapidly becoming worse over the past 3 weeks and don't have a colorectal surgeon for a surgery that is needed ASAP. My pelvic cavity has not healed since my jpouch had to be removed 2 yrs ago, and it has developed an infection that is intensifying each week and so painful. I'm trying to make it through the next two weeks at school;So please, if anyone lives or has great recommendation for a colorectal surgeon in ATLANTA, I would so appreciate it-time is running out. And I want to feel good about the surgeon I pick while I still have the ability to make it to dr visits-and not just settle for anyone based on the pain.
Thank you for any help at all.
Thank you so much for responding, Jan. Cleveland clinic was my first thought in my mission a month ago, but when speaking to my previous colo-rectal surgeon ( the one who moved away), he said I would need to find one here for the follow-up care-which makes sense-I can't be driving up to Cleveland every 2-3 weeks for check-up-doesn't sound practical. So how does practically everyone else as you mentioned manage that unless they all live in Cleveland??
May sound like a naive question, as I know Cleveland Clinic is the best of the best in colo-rectal care, but how does one manage all the follow-up care?
Anyhow, still not sure what to do, and need help fast.
If it were me, I'd get in touch with Dr. Shen or Dr. Remzi's office and make arrangements for a consult. Once you are evaluated with a treatment plan, I think they could recommend someone local to follow up with. I would imagine that they have lists. They would at least give you some ideas. I think you'd need a regular GI doc and perhaps a colorectal surgeon.

Another thought is to go to a wound healing specialty clinic, such as this one
http://www.atlantamedcenter.co...und-care-center.aspx
I am not recommending that particular facility, but perhaps it might be a workable option from a different approach. Sort of thinking "outside the box" of your current approach.

Jan Smiler
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Funny you say that, because after reading your previous post, I spend the day searching and searching throughout the different forums/posts that yielded info from others on perianal wounds that have not healed from jpouch removal/ flap reconstruction procedure (which is what my color-rectal recommended), and I went online to make an appt. with Dr. Remzi. But just concerned on how long that will take- I am in a lot of pain everyday, and have to hide it at work, and trying to push through my day teaching at school- 3 weeks of school left. Frowner My anus is sewn up, so it makes the pain worse, when you have pools of fluid infection inside (had to go to ER 2 weeks ago and they saw that in CT scan) that causes pain and such pressure and can't get out, except to leak through vaginally- its awful.

Anyhoo, I digress, but its difficult to take all the time/steps needed to make such a big decision and gather all the info/options and resolving the acquired inquiries that develop with the more knowledge gained, in order to make the best decision- when you just want it out and the pain to be relieved by any means asap.
But knowing you won't feel good about going forward with any procedure unless you feel good about your chosen colo-rectal- and the one I went to here last week in same practice was ok, but don't feel great about him.

Frowner
Dear Natalie,

I had my j-pouch removal surgery done by Dr. Juan Nogueras at the Cleveland Clinic in Weston, Florida in 2007 and it went very well. The surgery was lengthy because of a vaginal j-pouch fistula. Dr. Nogueras had to remove my j-pouch from my vagina, where scar tissue had caused it to adhere there in several places.

I just did a little research for you and discovered that the annual meeting for colo-rectal surgeons was just held in Arizona (see below). I located the name of Patrick S. Sullivan, M.D., of Emory University Hospital, Atlanta, Ga. He was listed in the meeting program information. Are you familiar with him? He presented at the conference. There were few colo-rectal surgeons from Georgia speaking.

His information is Patrick S. Sullivan, M.D. Telephone: 404.778.3712. He joined the faculty at Emory University School of Medicine in 2011. I know nothing about him except what I found after doing some research. I don't know if this will help you at all; I just thought I'd try to help. I tried to post the link here but am having trouble because I'm not as computer savvy as others are on this site.

ASCRS 2013 Annual Meeting

April 27 – May 1, 2013

Phoenix Convention Center

Phoenix, Arizona



Caty
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Caty, thank you so much for your info-I will check Dr. Sullivan out too.

I wanted to ask you, since I too, had a recto-vaginal fistula at the time of jpouch removal surgery, -how did your surgeon resolve the fistula at same time of pouch removal? Just wondering if he left the tract there and it healed after surgery on its own, or did any reconstruction at same time to heal it? Would really like to know how that was done, and were you sewn up anally or left open in your jpouch removal surgery?

My fistula ( or just tract now since its technically not a fistula anymore, since its not connecting 2 organs), is still present, as I continue to have drainage vaginally, and I am wondering if this in any way contributes to my unhealed pelvic cavity, with fluctuating abscess flares.

Thanks for your help!
Hello Natalie,

My fistula situation may be a bit different from yours. I had a graciloplasty surgery done at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Massachusetts five years before I had my surgery for the permanent, end ileostomy and j-pouch removal. Have you ever heard of that surgery? It worked for about five years--closed up the fistula tract. I finally threw in the towel on my j-pouch when I became incontinent from my anus. My sphincters were shot from all the fistula repair surgeries.

I think when Dr. Nogueras did the j-pouch removal, he left the gracilis muscle in place between my vagina and anus. I have no drainage coming from my vagina anymore. That horrible part of my life is over. My anus is closed; I have no drainage from there either. That area healed from the inside out and took about four months.

I see in your profile that you have a temporary ileostomy. Is that correct? What was the reasoning for not getting a permanent, end ileostomy when you had your j-pouch removed? It says that you are on your third temporary ileostomy...

I had no reconstruction surgery to heal my fistula tract. I believe it probably closed up on it's own after surgery to remove my j-pouch. The gracilis muscle is probably still there too. Whether it still has a function, I don't know. I'm not even sure if it still has blood flow. There's nothing (stool-wise) going down in that area anymore because I have an end ileostomy. You may be experiencing some problems because you have a temporary ileostomy and mucus and stool can still reach below.

I'm so sorry you are experiencing these problems and I'm sorry for the pain. I truly understand. I suffered for many, many years from my fistula and incontinence. I have my life back now since acquiring the end ileostomy.

Caty
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nat is sounds like your unhealed wound is draining the only way it can find out.. through the vagina. So I wonder why they haven't opened up your wound to drain and cleaned it out? I don't see how your vaginal tract can heal if its the only exit for your wound drainage. That relates to my other post to you about why haven't you had EUAs or CT guided drainages to get the wound cleaned out and drained? That wound needs to drain to heal and when it closes up..you are getting abscesses and that horrid pressure/pain.

caty..can you please tell me more about your gracilis flap surgery. I am in a similar situation to nat's- chronic unhealed wound and sinus tract from where jpouch was removed except I'm not hunting for docs as I already have wonderful ones at CC.

A gracilis flap repair is on the table if some experimental injections that are being done don't work. The plastic surgeon explained that after my surgeon cores open the tract to make it larger (I envision an auger here!), he comes in next and cuts the gracilis muscle, rotates it up under the skin somehow and kind of uses it like play dough to fill the wound/sinus tract. Both surgeons would be in the op. room together. So its just one op. I know yours was different, as it was for a fistula, but can you tell me about the leg part. Has it affected your leg function at all, recovery time, etc?
thanks so much.
liz
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Dear Liz,

It's hard to remember the graciloplasty procedure because I had the surgery in 2001. It also included a temporary ileostomy so the area below could heal properly. Brigham and Women's also uses a colo-rectal surgeon and a plastic surgeon. I won't sugar coat it. It was a difficult surgery to recover from. I was not allowed to sit for three weeks. I also had trouble jump starting my appetite for a long time and ended up being admitted to a hospital here in Florida twice for dehydration and anemia. But eventually I healed and the graciloplasty did work for me. I needed that muscle to fill in the area. I had a lot of scar tissue from so many other fistula surgery repairs that the tract would not close. This procedure DID work. As time went on, though, I lost sphincter control and became totally incontinent. I had so many surgeries to try to repair my fistula that my sphincters just gave out.

Yes, they do rotate the gracilis muscle up into the space between the vagina and anus. My fistula was very low (distal)--right at the opening of the vagina.

The graciloplasty surgery did not affect my right leg function at all. It still feels a tiny bit numb (so I'm careful when I shave my leg) and I do have a very faint long scar, but other than that one would never know that I had this surgery. For many months after the gracilis muscle was removed, I did have some phantom pain. I can't explain it to you but it's a weird feeling that eventually goes away.

The recovery time from the graciloplasty was at least 12 weeks. It took a while for everything to settle down. Even my vaginal labia area was swollen but all looks normal now.

I hope this helps. As I said above, it's been a while since I had the graciloplasty surgery. You are in good hands with the crew from the CC. My surgeons at Brigham and Women's did an excellent job also. You are smart to go somewhere where graciloplasty is done a lot.

Caty
I had my jpouch created in 1990 (I was 12) and 6 months later, developed an abscess rectovaginal fistula. I had several little surgeries to heal fistula including a seton, fistulotomy that were unsuccessful, and finally temp. ileostomy to divert it in order to heal. I had developed a defect vaginally that still allowed drainage. In 1998, I had an advancement flap done as vaginal reconstruction to correct the defect, and then I no longer had drainage vaginally. In 2001, I decided to try again at reconnection of Jpouch in the hopes that it would work the second time. I had my temp. ileostomy taken down in 6/2001, and it went great, no drainage vaginally. However, 7 weeks later, I developed an abscess and rectovaginal fistula- again. I immediately went into surgery to drain abscess and I got another temp. ileostomy.


At this point, I was pretty heartbroken that it did not work and this complication occurred again. And I was in neutral mode for 10 years until I finally decided to make my temp. ostomy permanent in 2011. I was not up for trying to connect my jpouch again, and I wanted to have the better quality of life that my ostomy gave me. Plus the fact that having your jpouch in you being unused and dormant, causes it to get inflamed and causes pressure/pain which was increasing over time, as well as mucous drainage. And I wanted the pressure and leakage gone most importantly as well.

I had my jpouch removed June 2011 with permanent ileostomy. But unfortunately, a few weeks after my jpouch was removed, I began to have drainage vaginally. My anus was sewn up in my jpouch removal surgery, and it healed up very well, and did not cause me any pain. I also should add that my anus did not ever close completely; There is a tiny hole that did not ever close completely (even though my surgeon had said that eventually it would), drainage comes through there slightly too, but mostly vaginally. I did not have any pain/pressure from anus initially, as it wasn’t until about 6 months to a year later that the pressure began to increase to an uncomfortable state and the drainage has always been present. And then in January 2013, pressure began again in a more intense way and the drainage changed to a very foul smell- as this is usually a sign of infection when pressure increases and odor changes of drainage. As this has happened before, eventually subsides, I didn’t give much concern/attention to it. However, unlike in the past, it never died down again and near the end of this past March, it became much more intense and the drainage was the foulest odor ever- extremely strong.


In the past month, more symptoms have popped up that I haven’t had before like: random fevers, fatigue, intense pressure that comes and goes, and overall not feeling as well. But some days better than others.

I spoke with my previous colo-rectal surgeon who’s known me since I was 12, at the end of March when symptoms intensifed to a degree I've never felt. My previous colo-rectal surgeon has moved away, but we corresponded by phone/email when my symptoms began to worsen in March, and he suggested the flap reconstruction procedure (butt, leg, or abdomen) to heal the pelvic cavity, and that I needed to see a plastic surgeon for it and the procedure would be done along with a colo-rectal surgeon. I met with a plastic surgeon he recommended the gracilis flap and the surgey would be done along with a colo-rectal surgeon as well. So that is why my original post was in search of a great colo-rectal surgeon in Atlanta. Since then, I have seen another colo-rectal surgeon that is in the same practice as my old one; He is a great surgeon- not so great bedside manner, but difficult to have best of both. I really like my plastic surgeon- very skilled and knowledgeable and very personable as well. In the past 3 weeks I have had 2 appointments with each of them- one, to initially meet and discuss, and second one- to talk more in depth about my situation and answer more questions I have developed over the course of this month in learning and researching more information on this procedure.

And because I’ve had recto-vaginal fistulas on both attempts to reconnect jpouch, I have questioned whether or not the fistula is still there, did it need to be healed/dealt with before I had jpouch removed? And I assumed that was why I was leaking drainage vaginally- but maybe I don’t have one anymore, and like Liz said, I am leaking vaginally, because that’s the main way the drainage can come out. And I inquired about the fistula being healed/corrected before or during jpouch removal surgery because my other thought/concern is that if the fistula tract is contributing to the pelvic cavity not healing completely after jpouch removal, or…if its totally unrelated whether I have one or not.


So that is my story, all up to date- I have not been on jpouch group in awhile- since 2001, and used to be so connected to so many, and slowly lost touch during my hiatus of running on automatic phase (completely enjoyed life though! Just tired of surgeries and enjoyed life with my temp ostomy again- avoiding making decisions on all that for awhile!- until I had to).

So I am in decision mode and trying to plan for the summer, as it is an opportune time for surgery when you’re a teacher; But not sure if I want to go through with both procedures of having anus opened up and drain pelvic wound, and gracilis reconstruction. Or, just opening up and draining for now, leaving it open and seeing if any improvement comes with that. Everything I have learned and read regarding the gracilis procedure is that it is a long, painful, and arduous one, and I don’t know if I want to jump into that yet-or make a decision based on the opportunity of time that is coming up when school is out in 2 weeks.
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My GI told me my daughter needed to see a colo/rectal Doctor and gave us the name of a few. Has your GI Doctor done that?? - The Doctor who did my daughters original JPouch at Hopkins but has moved 19 hours away - now she has to decide to go back to him for removal of a mass, or go locally to where they want to do chemo to reduce size - - I sure wish she would ask questions ----
When my GI told her she should see a colo/rectal Doctor which I have never heard of in all of these GI years - I went to the hospitals - went down their staffs looking for colo/rectal - fortunately found one in DC - and since she was in so much pain for so long - off she went for a week of getting rid of an infection - but also the discovery of colon cancer (no colon) but in lining -

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