My son just had his step 2 surgery and now has loop ileo. With the end ileo he was emptying his bag only 3-4 times per day. Now with the loop he needs to empty it 7-8 times per day. Is this typical? Is this due to less "pipe". He is only 2 weeks post op, so maybe it will decrease? Is this any indication of how many BMs he will have post takedown?
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Hi Momma, I don't know the specifics of why (others on here are very adept at the explanation) but, yes, the loop is more difficult to manage. More emptying, more liquid output. No, this is not an indication of the results your son will have after his takedown. Having said that, he will most likely initially use the bathroom a good amount after takedown because his jpouch will need time to expand and hold more. Over time, the number of bms will decrease. Hang in there!
HI Momma, I wouldn't expect the output to be different between a loop or an end, I would think that the higher output at the moment will settle with time after surgery. THat's been my experience. Hope it goes well for him.
A loop ileo is usually a higher output ostomy than the end because less of the small intestine is available for digestion. It should improve with time, but if you have only a few weeks or months, there may not be enough time for this adaptation.
Jan 
I have a loop for a year this week. I empty probably 8-10 times in a 24 hour day. Liquid output. But no pain and with odor drops no embarrassment or issues like before. I wouldn't go back. I do not know anything about an end ostomy.
I have an end ileo. I empty 8 to 10 times a day. But what it depends on is how often I eat. If I eat a big meal I am guaranteed to have to empty at least three times starting about an hour after eating. If I eat light.... Boy... I could go half the day without an empty. But... ... I sure do enjoy eating anything I want again... That's the good part. Well one of em. I could go on but I won't.
Hopefully he won't have it long enough as said above.
All depends on your eating habits and I am sure it is the same with a loop. I had one of those too for a short time. That thing was nothing but trouble. I had three blockages in that short time.
But having both I see output has been mostly liquid. The end still depends on what I eat. Of course. I had tostadas today and piled the cheese on. Well that slowed it way down and made it noticeably very thick. All evening.
Question.... Are all loops temporary?
I cannot imagine a permanent loop ileo.
My end ileo is no problem. As for blockages. Very forgiving let's say.
Richard.
