Feels Like Trapped Wind... But Not Sure

Well, I had gas that wouldn't come out for a day even with gas x. So maybe it's possible that gas could be trapped longer. I'm sorry I can't be of much help because I've only had my j pouch for almost 7 months. 

  Sometimes I get something like that when holding too long. I seem to back up and it takes a day or 2 to catch up with myself.  Do the old on knees, face on floor ass in air.  Should help expel any trapped air bubbles lol

That's the thing, I'm still passing wind on the toilet but I have noticed my passing of stools has slowed down from what it usually is, but it can't be a blockage or a kink in the bowel as I wouldn't be able to pass wind surely? The feeling is just to the side of my belly button and I can only describe it as something being slightly stuck... It's confusing me haha

Bob you absolute gem, that suggestion might have done the trick.... I'll wait to see what it's like when I wake up in the morning

Might need to do it a couple of times. . If that does help, probally a sign your holding too long.  It's good to know you can hold, but as a rule of thumb, you should probably go if you need too rather than force a 'backup'.

It's eased a bit this morning. That's the thing, I can't hold it in for too long as I still experience urgency so I might be gulping food without realising... hmm. When you feel your bowels moving and wind passing through, does it tend to happen mostly down one side of your body in particular? I feel the most movement happening down the right hand side/middle of my belly button, just dunno whether that's anything to be concerned about, doubt it to be honest.

I guess that's where everyone is different.  I get a surging sensation at the anus and have to clench tight until it passes  The surge gets stronger and if I keep clenching it sort of bubbles and rumbles (the rumble is around my old stoma site, but I guess it depends on how you were wired up.

.  Those bubbles and rumbles get stronger and stronger and louder until I go and the pressure on the anus increases each time.  But when I leave it this long I get incomplete emptying, then have to de-gas myself the way I described and make a frequent visits.  It's much more beneficial to go at my earliest convenience.

Yeah that's what I get. I get that surging feeling and a rumbling sensation but I have to clench to kinda make sure it stays in until that feeling passes or until I reach a toilet. It usually comes back shortly after, depending on how much I've ate. So would you class that as having an urgency?.... 

I've certainly experienced that. I wouldn't call it urgency, because I don't have to run to the toilet immediately. Maybe we could call in "pre-urgency." It's most common for me if I wait too long to empty my pouch, but it happened much more frequently when my pouchitis was inadequately treated.

Oh right, so how would you describe urgency, Scott? I might be getting the wrong idea on what urgency actually is. Feels like if I don't clench it will come out, but that might be a normal feeling...

I think that is a normal feeling, when you had a colon it was less pronounced because your output was firmer...  When you had diarrhea with a colon,. That would be urgency. Need to go immediately or soil.  

The surging is non urgency with loose output..... I think lol

If you have to clench you need to go, sure you can defer, but doing that can't be healthy all the time.  If you try a few days without deferring you will probally find your less backed up and more comfortable.... Or may not... Worth a try?

I think Bobish and I are on the same page here, though I'm more positive than he is about "holding it in," at least sometimes, if only for the sense of power over my toilet needs.

I consider it "urgent" if something bad will happen (like an accident) unless I get to the toilet. Otherwise it's just uncomfortable, or sometimes very uncomfortable.

The urgent feeling can be light through the day and gets heavier in the evening after the food I've eaten all day has passed through, which is obviously understandable. But it's interesting to know that you also have to clench when experiencing a surging sensation as well, Bob. Makes me a feel a bit more confident that things aren't as bad as I first thought and that it might just be a normal feeling. I'm only going around 4 times a day so that's not bad at all.

Jordy, I'd say you are doing well @4 times a day.   It probably doesn't get much better than that.  If you went 5 or 6 times a day you'd probally be more comfortable overall though. 

Still taking a couple loperamide tablets each day but there's times I've forgot to and it didn't really make much difference. Only reason I hold on for a while is so I empty as much as possible in one go, makes me more comfortable and confident if I'm away from a toilet. But I might try going as soon as I feel a bit of surging like you said, Bob. Thanks!

I know exactly the area you mean! I sometimes press or rub gently on that point when I'm sitting on the toilet, and that really helps expel gas.