Last night I had corn on the cob for the first time since my surgery (3months ago). I was up all night going to the bathroom, and have been going all morning! It is like straight water coming out now. Almost feels like I am peeing out of my bottom! I haven't had any issues with incontinence, until today. Could this be from the corn? Maybe a possible blockage? I don't have any pain in my stomach. Some pain down in my rectal area though!
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It could be a partial blockage. You are okay if you don't hurt. Always try very small amount when trying for the first time. Pain in bottom is probably due to increased number of trips. I would take hot shower, drink hot soup or tea.
thank you
My husband brought up a good point...I have been having some cramping off and on for the last couple of days. And now the watery diarrhea...i wonder if it could be pouchitis?!
My husband brought up a good point...I have been having some cramping off and on for the last couple of days. And now the watery diarrhea...i wonder if it could be pouchitis?!
BrittanyKay,
Speaking for myself, stay away from corn or popcorn. Corn is hard to digest. 2 months after my first surgery, I had a huge bag of popcorn at the movies. Then next day, I was in severe abdominal pain and throwing up. Nothing, nothing, nothiing at all was coming out from my stoma. I had to be rushed to the hospital. The doctors there finally gave me either Morphine or Demeraol and it relaxed me and put me to sleep and while I slept, enough stool passed through the stoma to fill about 4 bucket fulls. My surgeon showed up later and I was hospitalized for 5 days but the corn did cause a blockage.
In my opinion, its too soon to introduced foods like that to your diet. Take it real slow and journalize what you eat and how your body reacts to food.
Rocket
Speaking for myself, stay away from corn or popcorn. Corn is hard to digest. 2 months after my first surgery, I had a huge bag of popcorn at the movies. Then next day, I was in severe abdominal pain and throwing up. Nothing, nothing, nothiing at all was coming out from my stoma. I had to be rushed to the hospital. The doctors there finally gave me either Morphine or Demeraol and it relaxed me and put me to sleep and while I slept, enough stool passed through the stoma to fill about 4 bucket fulls. My surgeon showed up later and I was hospitalized for 5 days but the corn did cause a blockage.
In my opinion, its too soon to introduced foods like that to your diet. Take it real slow and journalize what you eat and how your body reacts to food.
Rocket
thank you for sharing that Rocket! I am sorry you had to go through that. I will definitely stay away from corn or popcorn for awhile. If and when I do have some, will just have a little bit at a time.
Anything with a husk is a potential blockage and worth avoiding. Corn husks will not break down and can build up like a dam.
Similar "symptoms" yesterday but don't know why. Woke up with uneasy feeling in my gut. Liquidy leaking for several hours and then fine. Output just poured out of me. Happens every now and then.
Both corn kernels and cob/husks should be eaten with care. With kernels they frequently come out partially digested even when decently chewed. This is a tough, fibrous vegetable and care should be taken chewing it thoroughly. I would suggest small quantities are prudent at first.
My cousin in law had me over for dinner Saturday night and he made a seafood paella which had chopped corn on the cob in it, kernels still on the cob chopped into small pieces, but they were cooked. I ate a few of them but not much. Very tasty but you have to be careful. After a year or so you may be able to digest it a lot better so don't give up because of one blockage 3 months out.
Good luck.
My cousin in law had me over for dinner Saturday night and he made a seafood paella which had chopped corn on the cob in it, kernels still on the cob chopped into small pieces, but they were cooked. I ate a few of them but not much. Very tasty but you have to be careful. After a year or so you may be able to digest it a lot better so don't give up because of one blockage 3 months out.
Good luck.
Although it seems that it may be the corn I'm a little bit skeptical because you weren't experiencing any abdominal pain. If you had a partial blockage I'm pretty sure you would have the pain to go with it.
The 'undissolved' bits and pieces you might see are the same that coloned people have. But their undissolved is all tidily wrapped up in firm stool. That's the insoluble parts of foods - and they're insoluable in the coloned as well.
I have no problems with corn or popcorn (or nuts or fruits or vegetables - well other than carrots but that's another story and I still eat them). When corn is in season I'll eat 2 ears at a sitting. And I usually have a huge bowl of popcorn a couple of times a week. If you want to eat another bit of corn, maybe just go for a bit and see how it works.
Like CeCe said, those very watery times can occur for absolutley no discernible reason. They'll come and go. There are no bad foods - IMHO.
Regarding pouchitis - give your doctor a call and run it by her/him.
kathy
The 'undissolved' bits and pieces you might see are the same that coloned people have. But their undissolved is all tidily wrapped up in firm stool. That's the insoluble parts of foods - and they're insoluable in the coloned as well.
I have no problems with corn or popcorn (or nuts or fruits or vegetables - well other than carrots but that's another story and I still eat them). When corn is in season I'll eat 2 ears at a sitting. And I usually have a huge bowl of popcorn a couple of times a week. If you want to eat another bit of corn, maybe just go for a bit and see how it works.
Like CeCe said, those very watery times can occur for absolutley no discernible reason. They'll come and go. There are no bad foods - IMHO.
Regarding pouchitis - give your doctor a call and run it by her/him.
kathy
Thank you Kathy I am going to call my GI doc in the morning! Still having issues!!
I am going to call my GI doc in the morning! Still having issues!!
Being summertime and living in NJ, I have been eating a lot of corn on the cob. Oddly enough, the next day I have very watery stools for half the day. Happens every time so there must be some connection. Knock wood I have have never has a blockage of any sort.
Brittany,
Just another possible thing it could be... Considering you are only 3 months out, is this your first monthly cycle? If you haven't had one yet, it can do wonders on the pouch. Cramping, increased BMs, and watery BMs are very common 2-3 days prior to it starting. It's happened to me several times where I think I'm starting up a pouchitis flare, I begin the antibiotics, then two days later, I'm like, oh yeah, here's the problem!
Just another possible thing it could be... Considering you are only 3 months out, is this your first monthly cycle? If you haven't had one yet, it can do wonders on the pouch. Cramping, increased BMs, and watery BMs are very common 2-3 days prior to it starting. It's happened to me several times where I think I'm starting up a pouchitis flare, I begin the antibiotics, then two days later, I'm like, oh yeah, here's the problem!
quote:There are no bad foods - IMHO.
I disagree. Corn and popcorn are notorious for causing blockages, which although we chat about them here as an every day occurrence, they can be life threatening. For some people even small seeds like those on strawberries are potential blockage causing. Everyone has different experiences and can see for themselves what works and what doesn't.
Maybe Kathy can eat without problems, but all of a sudden one day, it can change. These pouches are ornery little buggers and most times there seems to be nothing at all I did 'wrong' and things go awry.
Anyway, it seems as if corn DID cause you a problem and I know it's hard to not have such yummy things when they are in season. My advice to eat small amounts of new foods and see how you do before adding in more.
I was unaware that strawberry seeds could cause a blockage. I'd never heard of that. Do you have a link to information about it? I'd love to read it.
I absolutely agree that a person can eat a food without any problems and then one day things can change. But I don't think that's necessarily a certain food's 'fault.' I think that sometimes adhesions crop up, or the pouch wriggles in a different direction, or something else occurs and then there's a blockage. I chose not to let the 'what-if's' control what I eat. There are certain foods that I don't eat because they travel through my system too fast but that's not the food's fault - it's my individual plumbing. And even then, if I want to eat that particular food I'll prepare for it by slathering on butt cream and eating bulking foods to help create a nice bed for the rapid-transit food.
The reason I say that, in my opinion, there are no bad foods is because I don't want new j-pouchers to start getting a fear-of-food thing going. It saddens me when someone comes on here and says that they are craving a salad and they haven't eaten one in over a year. Or that they want to eat popcorn at the movie but they don't. I was told that I could eat anything. I was also told that tomatoes and tomato-based products would cause big problems for me (as a j-poucher). That never happened. But it does happen for some. I think everyone always suggests to start out slowly and add new things one-at-a-time as you did. That's always good to point out.
The reason I'm a little skeptical about it being a blockage is because Brittany wasn't experiencing pain. Blockages (partial) have always caused rather severe pain for me.
I hope that I cleared up what I was trying to say.
kathy
I absolutely agree that a person can eat a food without any problems and then one day things can change. But I don't think that's necessarily a certain food's 'fault.' I think that sometimes adhesions crop up, or the pouch wriggles in a different direction, or something else occurs and then there's a blockage. I chose not to let the 'what-if's' control what I eat. There are certain foods that I don't eat because they travel through my system too fast but that's not the food's fault - it's my individual plumbing. And even then, if I want to eat that particular food I'll prepare for it by slathering on butt cream and eating bulking foods to help create a nice bed for the rapid-transit food.
The reason I say that, in my opinion, there are no bad foods is because I don't want new j-pouchers to start getting a fear-of-food thing going. It saddens me when someone comes on here and says that they are craving a salad and they haven't eaten one in over a year. Or that they want to eat popcorn at the movie but they don't. I was told that I could eat anything. I was also told that tomatoes and tomato-based products would cause big problems for me (as a j-poucher). That never happened. But it does happen for some. I think everyone always suggests to start out slowly and add new things one-at-a-time as you did. That's always good to point out.
The reason I'm a little skeptical about it being a blockage is because Brittany wasn't experiencing pain. Blockages (partial) have always caused rather severe pain for me.
I hope that I cleared up what I was trying to say.
kathy
I also agree that there are no universal bad foods. I've had POs from oranges and pineapple, but it was because I didn't chew it. I eat copious amounts of popcorn and have never had any problems.
The biggest disservice we do for new pouchers is scaring them from eating a variety of foods. Just because someone might get POs from a particular food, is not a reason for new people not to eat it! There was someone on this board who hadn't eaten vegetable in 8 years because she read that people have blockages from vegetables. Guess what? She ate vegetables and had no problems!
It's best for us to phrase our comments by saying I don't have problems with this food, or I do have problems with that food, but there is no off limit food and everyone should be encouraged to figure these things out for themselves.
Sue
The biggest disservice we do for new pouchers is scaring them from eating a variety of foods. Just because someone might get POs from a particular food, is not a reason for new people not to eat it! There was someone on this board who hadn't eaten vegetable in 8 years because she read that people have blockages from vegetables. Guess what? She ate vegetables and had no problems!
It's best for us to phrase our comments by saying I don't have problems with this food, or I do have problems with that food, but there is no off limit food and everyone should be encouraged to figure these things out for themselves.
Sue
Thank you Kathy I totally got what you were saying! Thank you for the encouragement too, as I am very new to this and can totally see myself not enjoying food/life because I am afraid to try!
I totally got what you were saying! Thank you for the encouragement too, as I am very new to this and can totally see myself not enjoying food/life because I am afraid to try!
I think all pouches have a mind of their own and some days they are just cranky no matter what you eat. Like several people said, try a little bit of a new food and reintroduce it at a later time if it causes you issues. I have had my pouch for 15 years and all I can say is that it can be unpredictable at times. You are such a newbie so I would not cross anything off of your list.