Nope

with biden being on the doorstep to 270 electoral votes i think everyones worries will be answered, those of us who need/look foward to and will benefit from obama care and the govt healthcare syst

if trump were to stay the govt halth care system would get distorted/destructed because trump is for the wealthy and only loqwering their taxes and doesnt care for the lower income folk/poor that depend on the govt for help. ie. govt healthcare/foodstamps etc.

im resting easy better, its a wait and see approach but things look good.

fingers crossed tonight, watching anciously constantly on cnn how this plays out,.

-len

I agree with DoughBoy. Biden will get a better hold on COVID, as well. Trump would be a disaster for so many reasons.

Not only do I agree with you kangaroo but the fact we are 7 months into the pandemic and trump hasn't had a grip or plan altogether on how to handle and go about managing the virus. Even in the polls a lot of his past supports are now for biden/democracy that he had in 2016 when he won the oval office which then helped him become elected

The pandemic has destroyed and divided our economy and nation. It has created and torn us . we must cone together again . Biden will make that happen.  Most would agree as a president trump has failed and on many levels.

His disrespect for woman .those who are African American and LGBTQ people is hostile and he has shown that.  We never had a creep & a total disgust as well as poor excuse for a human being run a country. He was never fit fir the job when elected 4 years ago. He has shown nothing but aggression and derogatorial. Behavior which got eirse and went further the longer he has been in office from year 1through. 4th year teem that just passed.

Before you become a leader of a country. You should. Be a person. Someone with a heart and personality. Trump is a schlub who is all about himself and has demonstrated he isn't capable of running the country.

I could go on and on but point being most Americans want change after the last 4 years which trump has Proven to have mishandled in office. Nothing but chaos has happened.

Len

Len,

tRump ran the country the way he ran his businesses, into the ground.  We are definitely in need of a change for the better.  Looking forward to watching the rest of the results.  

He has been nothing but a danger to the country at large.  He is the reason we have this deadly virus.  He sees or knows no boundaries.

He was a businessman as a former business man he was he made a mistake that cost the u.s. EVERYTHING! He never should have crosses the line and got into politics!

Can't wait for Jan. When Biden will be sworn into office. He will have a lot of work to do in the way of correcting dumps. Mistakes over the course of the past 4 years!

Its past due that the p.o.s gets kicked to the curb and voted out/replaced.

Len

You guys are insane lol. It's called Trump derangement syndrome.

Biden will sink everything Trump got us. All the trade deals that Trump had to fix. All the jobs that were shipped over seas from Obama that Trump brought back will be gone.

It's crazy to see people have CNN convince people to vote against their own best interests.

most folk, a good majority do not agree with policy(ies) . his policys area failure. he spoke during the debates. he has no clue and  to be apresident you need a damn plan as to how to handle the pandemic. We are 7 months into the virus and trump has NO PLAN/TACTIC as to how to handle the pandemic and  get the  country back on track. the unemployment total list daily is continuing to climb and sky rocket nationwise/state wide.  Look at the  population of the deceased listing as a result of the pandemic.

Other counties are all laughing at us that we have a douche bag carrying the title of president for 4 years who has clearly done NOTHING!. Having trump as a president is  PUNISHMENT FOR US!

Everyone is not rich/independently wealthy. Trump is for the rich. He would remove obama/care and alter govt healthcare for the poor/sick if he was  re-elected.

The things he states that he claims as facts over the years are all falsified claims.

I  agree with CNN, i support the fact he is  not liked by  cnn news anchors /and reporters. These journalists know why they disagree with him and are not for him.

-len

I dont want to turn laurens questions/this thread into a flame war. not my intention. Plus when Jan checks in as amoderator here the topic will get closed altogether/locked if this  doesnt stay on track with regards to laurens originally question which was the healthcare aspect of who will be elected as president .

Its apparent and  just a matter of hours sometime tonight Biden will  annouce his offical  victory over  DUMP/TURD!

-len

100% agree, DoughBoy.

As far as healthcare, which is the original topic, I was able to get top doctors and care because of Obama care when I needed j pouch surgery. I want future j pouchers to have that. That is one of the many reasons it is important that Biden wins.

I loved hearing everybodys opinions! I would love for Trump to lose! I am a Democrat 100% but I did not vote for Biden. Both people have been accused of Sexual Assault so for that reason I did not vote for anyone. I would love to see Trump lose though!

@Kangaroo posted:

100% agree, DoughBoy.

As far as healthcare, which is the original topic, I was able to get top doctors and care because of Obama care when I needed j pouch surgery. I want future j pouchers to have that. That is one of the many reasons it is important that Biden wins.

I love everything you said and your statement about future  J-pouchers! Such a powerful statment!

Obama care is excellent. Yes we need it to stay. Most of us will be breathing a sigh of relief tonight, soon when it will be official that Biden has defeated trump and will be sworn in in Jan.

I never felt concerned over the independently wealthy /business owners getting their taxes increased for making over the Amt. They can afford high taxes /increases which a republican president stands for.  The poor and low income are the ones who suffer when a republican is on the oval office.

Trump never had a clue as to how to be a president. He failed up and terribly.His policy's are all a failure just like his character and b

one should know how to speak and conduct themself before they take what's suppose to be a high position such asrunning the country.

I agree that Obamacare has certainly helped many people who otherwise may not have healthcare.  Like any healthcare plans there is always room for improvement and that is certainly something that can be worked on.  For myself I have Medicare and Tricare from serving in the military.  I assume this will remain the way it is.  At least, I hope it does.

BTW, Len, love Philly!  My sister-in-law lives near the Italian Market.  And near one of the best places for Vietnamese hoagies!  

Cool ctb!  I live in northeast Philly a bit of distance from Italian market.  Unfortunutely hoagie eating is not a part of my diet.  A past resolved acute kidney injury which required me to have 3 sessions of emergency dialysis June 2019 has made me make lifestyle changes diet wise and weight loss wise.

I heard primo hoagie shops in Philly are good. Lincheon meats are overloaded with fats and salts anyway..

I am a ssdi beneficiary and have medicare also as my primary Insurance. Medicaid OS my secondary

@Jaydog posted:

You guys are insane lol. It's called Trump derangement syndrome.

Biden will sink everything Trump got us. All the trade deals that Trump had to fix. All the jobs that were shipped over seas from Obama that Trump brought back will be gone.

It's crazy to see people have CNN convince people to vote against their own best interests.

Who cares about “trade deals” while they can’t get their thousands dollars worth remicade infusions?

Voting against “best interest”? That is exactly what GOP voters do.

As a European, I can’t understand how every American does not want universal health coverage and free college for their kids. One must be so ideologically blind not to want these basic needs covered by the system. All rich developed western counties have these covered, and No they are not socialists. That is why Bernie and similar politicians will dominate US politics in 20 years, because Americans under 40 are fully aware of how the system works in the developed world. And they demand the same. Of course, Fox tv will not tell it’s viewers how the system in the US compares to the developed world, that would be communist!

Trump has proven the world that all ideology of GOP, religion, abortion, conservative values etc is pure propaganda. Nothing more. Because Trump is the very opposite of these values. GOP’s top priority is to chip away from resources meant to cover people’s basic needs, like Medicare, social security benefits, and pass those resources to the rich with tax cuts or similar measures. The rest (including trade deals) is all ideological propaganda to hide this fact.

Well said, Elif. It's scary how many people can't see through Trump's lies and deception and follow him like a cult leader.

@Former Member posted:

Who cares about “trade deals” while they can’t get their thousands dollars worth remicade infusions?

Voting against “best interest”? That is exactly what GOP voters do.

As a European, I can’t understand how every American does not want universal health coverage and free college for their kids. One must be so ideologically blind not to want these basic needs covered by the system. All rich developed western counties have these covered, and No they are not socialists. That is why Bernie and similar politicians will dominate US politics in 20 years, because Americans under 40 are fully aware of how the system works in the developed world. And they demand the same. Of course, Fox tv will not tell it’s viewers how the system in the US compares to the developed world, that would be communist!

Trump has proven the world that all ideology of GOP, religion, abortion, conservative values etc is pure propaganda. Nothing more. Because Trump is the very opposite of these values. GOP’s top priority is to chip away from resources meant to cover people’s basic needs, like Medicare, social security benefits, and pass those resources to the rich with tax cuts or similar measures. The rest (including trade deals) is all ideological propaganda to hide this fact.

I'll tell you who cares about trade deals. People with jobs care about trade deals. More importantly people who lose their jobs because of trade deals.

Yes who wouldn't want free healthcare free college? It's like dealing with children. Why stop there how about a free house and free vehicles. Free vacations and free food? That all sounds amazing. The problem is none of that is free. That's why young people love bernie sanders. They haven't lived long enough to understand how things actually work LOL. If universal healthcare is so great why do people come from all over the world to America to get treatments and surgeries they can't get in their own countries? I have friends and relatives in Canada and they tell me the horror stories of how bad the healthcare system is. My father in law had to come to America for his cancer treatments because he couldn't get the care he needed in Canada. Why do you think all the cubans and Venezuelans voted for Trump? It's because they come from Communist countries and they look at rich white college kids saying they want socialism and they are amazed. The literally went through mine fields and risked death to escape socialism.

When you say free college you conviniently leave out the fact that my taxes go up. You conviniently leave out that all the corporations who provide jobs pack up and leave and go to business friendly countries. That's exactly what happened under Obama. Remember Obama saying the manufacturing jobs were gone and nobody could just wave a magic wand to bring them back? Trump brought them back by cutting regulations and taxes. That's why we had the best economy ever.

All that being said I shouldn't respond anymore because this forum isn't for political debates and we shouldn't get sucked into it. This forum is for support and information for people with jpouches or other related issues. This place has been good to me over the last year and a half of me going through my situation and all the people on here have been great support and source of info.

Well said @Jaydog. Its never free. It all gets paid for by someone else.

Sad..to those who just turned a medical support forum into politics...just sad. So much for decorum!

I don't have Obamacare as I have health insurance thru my job. But it is ridiculous, premiums are sky high and deductibles are outrageous. With all of our health issues I have to pay between $3000-$7000 out of pocket for myself and my 2 kids. That doesn't even include the $600 a month in premiums.. I work to pay my medical bills with not much left over..

while I do, my 34 year old pouch doesn't care much about politics.  suggest we keep them separate.

Appreciate all of the positive comments. Biden won so lets hope he helps everybody and those of us with medical issues. I hope everyone: all of the future J-pouchers/pouchies and future ostomates will be taken care of in the now and present going forward