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I am 6 years post take down and I have had chronic itching in and around the rectum since that often will respond to antibiotics.  I use Imodium, fiber, and Calmoseptine daily.  The problem never goes completely away.  ANy suggestions?  I often will take a partial course of Cipro as the symptoms get worse with a full course.

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Sorry for the repeat because I've posted this a few times before.  I had similar issues and saw a number of doctors for it.  I finally was diagnosed with several contact allergies.  Turned out that the biggest culprit for me is tomatoes, but there are other things that bother my skin as well.  

I tried Calmoseptine (which is advertised on this blog).  I thought is was a miracle in a tube.  But it must be meant to use for very small periods of time because it broke my skin down and that was worse than my original symptoms (which were really bad).

One simplistic tip ... Apply Vaseline around your rectum before you do your business.  It acts as a barrier from whatever might be irritating your skin.  

MO

I'm not sure how helpful this will be, as we are all different. The task of changing what I eat, as well as products I use, was a huge endeavor. 

That said, this is what I am allergic to:

- Bacitracin

- Balsam of Peru

- Bronopol

- Euxyl K-400

- Methylchloroisothiazolinone-Methylisothiazolinone

- Paraben Mix

(Balsam of Peru is a huge problem for me and contains many many things in that category, including tomatoes.)

MO

Has a yeast/fungal infection been ruled out? Some barrier creams can actually exacerbate a yeast infection as they maintain a moist environment that allow yeast to thrive and multiply. Antibiotics can also cause yeast infections or make an existing one worse - which is perhaps why your symptoms seem to get worse when you do the full Cipro course. It is definitely something you need to rule out before you go down too many other avenues. 

Spooky
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As per my usual response to anything anal itchy related....... apply ilex Protectant Paste after each BM.

ilex, will make all the difference; once applied it with soothe the affected area and protect the skin.

Apply a small pea size amount of ilex paste to and around the affected area, kind of smeared it on top rather than rubbing into the skin; any more than the the small pea size amount and it'll become a sticky and gloopy mess between the cheeks; apply it sparingly, unless severe skin damage is apparent.

FM
strange posted:

As per my usual response to anything anal itchy related....... apply ilex Protectant Paste after each BM.

ilex, will make all the difference; once applied it with soothe the affected area and protect the skin.

Apply a small pea size amount of ilex paste to and around the affected area, kind of smeared it on top rather than rubbing into the skin; any more than the the small pea size amount and it'll become a sticky and gloopy mess between the cheeks; apply it sparingly, unless severe skin damage is apparent.

Strange, do you remove the previous layer of ilex paste before reapplying after each BM? I just bought ilex paste for the first time and was surprised to read it needs to be removed with baby oil, which seems to irritate my butt burn even more.

StarryNight
StarryNight posted:
strange posted:

As per my usual response to anything anal itchy related....... apply ilex Protectant Paste after each BM.

ilex, will make all the difference; once applied it with soothe the affected area and protect the skin.

Apply a small pea size amount of ilex paste to and around the affected area, kind of smeared it on top rather than rubbing into the skin; any more than the the small pea size amount and it'll become a sticky and gloopy mess between the cheeks; apply it sparingly, unless severe skin damage is apparent.

Strange, do you remove the previous layer of ilex paste before reapplying after each BM? I just bought ilex paste for the first time and was surprised to read it needs to be removed with baby oil, which seems to irritate my butt burn even more.

No, but kinda yes.

It all depends on the severity of the butt burn and skin damage.

If ilex is applied for the treatment of anal itching or a burning sensation, only a small pea size amount is required, applied sparringly over a large area, to ease and soothe.

It's not practical to cleanse with toilet paper, as the paper kind of drags n tears (due to the ilex).

Using the wet wipes, the moisture of the wet wipes aids the cleansing process and removes all traces of ilex, although there maybe a few sticky bobbles of ilex that require picking off (pinch bobbles off with toilet paper)

When cleansing is complete, if required, reapply ilex.

If the butt burn results in severe skin damage, the ilex paste must be heavily smeared over the affected area.

Doing so, will create a sticky and gloopy mess between the cheeks but whilst applied, the ilex will kind of dry out, so wont remain sticky for long.

It's still best to cleanse with wet wipes but this time as the ilex has been applied so thickly the wet wipes won't remove it during cleansing, the ilex kind of bonds to the affected skin and will eventually begin to break down and peel off during the cleansing process.

When this occurs, just peel off what remains, cleanse with wet wipes and if required, reapply.

When I say cleanse, I actually mean wipe, no faffing about with a bidet, just normal everyday wiping.

I've been using ilex, intially to treat skin damage around my Stoma and then on and off since takedown and I've never required baby oil to remove it; natural, unscented pure wet wipes have always sufficed.

FM
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Also, if you get irritation from baby oil, you may also get irritation from most wipes. You might try plain mineral oil (with no fragrance).

I don't think you need to remove the Ilex with each BM, that is disrupting the healing area too much. Just reapply the vaseline. Try to leave an application of Ilex on as long as you can, maybe cleanse off once a day while showering.

Jan

Jan Dollar
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I've never used Vaseline; it's normally recommended to apply Vaseline on top of the ilex to prevent butt cheeks sticking together, but this tends to only occur when ilex is spread heavily and thickly over a large area between the cheeks.

I've never needed to apply ilex between the cheeks to such an extent, although when I first started using ilex to treat what I believed was butt burn, I did apply it heavily and thickly; kind of smearing it on top of what I believed was the affected area.

When applied in such a manner, the ilex will remain and kind of encapsulating the affected area, until it begins to break down and starts to peel off, it will remain for at least 3 to 4 days before it starts to peel off, maybe longer when Vaseline is applied over it.

I would suggest, once the ilex begins to peel off; just peel off what remains and re apply, if needed.

When ilex is applied for anal itching or any other form of anal irritation other than a diaper type rash, then only a small pea size amount of ilex is required, which, once applied, will work its magic in between BM's and is more or less all removed with wet wipes during cleansing/wiping after a BM.

Reapply ilex after each BM for one or two days unti the itching sensation has ceased.

FM
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