NYC Googler posted:

I was wondering when something as sensible as your post would come up. Thanks. I'm not dead either.

Aww, shucks. :-)  You guys have gone through so much!!  

Check, wipe, double check...go back in before kids or company comes to make sure that there are no missed spots, clean the guys' pee off of the floor if they missed the bowl and start all over again...

Same routine for the last 37yrs...I keep wipes around, do walls, floors, bowl and any surrounding regions if needed after every go....and I still miss things.

Hubby complains  then cleans things himself...(that is why I married the guy...he cleans toilets!)

This is my life, I am used to it...if someone wants to be in my life they need to get with the program or leave.

Sharon

ps. just spent 2 weeks with my best friend...she tells me when there is something there that should not be or a mess...not a problem...I go clean it...that is why we are still best friends

Since posting this subject things have actually improved I'm being more careful, wiping down places the usual suspects hang out, even if I can't see them. I'm using more toilet paper on top of the water and making a concerted effort not to bear down quite as hard. As an aside, I'm convinced that the shape of the bowl factors into the splashback. The problem is I don't think sellers are interested in real world testing so this observation is academic. 

I'm glad to hear of others having problems with stains under the toilet seat! How does it get there???? I've had some success with Mr. Clean Erasers... But like many of the replies, basically cleaning the toilet after each use is the best remedy. 

I've had my pouch for 14 years now so like many of you have plenty toilet cleaning experience. I use Dettol antibacterial wet wipes all round the toilet seat and toilet bowl after every use. Lifting the seat up and carefully cleaning all areas - over the years we have replaced the toilet seat once or twice and always go for a white moulded version with no "nooks&crannies" for germs/poop to hide so very easy to spot anything and clean up quickly, I also give entire unit a twice weekly "super-  clean" with a generic bleach based bathroom cleaner and very hot water.

HOWEVER my issue I would like to raise is with the toilets in my workplace - I live in UK so we call the toilets. So as at home I have a supply of wet wipes I use to clean up each time I use the "loo", here is the issue - my co workers - male & female who use the loo and never give a thought to checking behind them before they leave! Urghhh totally vile! The toilet seat is quite decrepit to begin with - uncovers nuts & bolts covered in god knows what and "suspicious" smears around bowl. I can clearly see this prior to "doing my thing", obviously I want to do the decent sanitary thing and clean up, however that means also having to deal with the excretia of almost strangers- again urghh! I've had to purchase a supply of disposable gloves as you can imagine! I detest toilet brushes - I use disposable "Toilet Duck" ones at home but I'm not paying for the office too! So I have to use the germ laden one which is supplied and stand as well back as I can while holding my breath as I attack the mess. I'm very lucky that I don't work in an environment where toilet breaks are timed a it often takes a while once I'm finally done after scrubbing my hands several times as well. Also fortunately I usually only have to "go" a couple times a day while at work. 

I dread to think what the bathrooms in the homes of these perpetrators look like! 

Thanks for reading!

regards, Sylvia x

For the record, I've taken to doubling up on the amount of toilet paper I place on top of the bowl water. It's not full proof particularly when things are loose, but it's made a dramatic difference. If I'm not certain of "complete containment" I'll wipe with a Kirtland wipe just about everywhere, just in case. I follow up with two burnt matches left floating in the clean bowl water to draw attention and praise for my attentiveness.  

Not sure if this advice is needed anymore, but I figured out a way to eliminate most of this problem. Keep in mind this won't work for some people who have other physical disabilities - this is just works for me right now, with my "normal height toilet" at home:

1. Before I sit down, I observe the thickness of the toilet paper...
   1. If the toilet paper supplied is thicker (i.e. Charmin Ultra Soft):  I tear off like 15-20 inches of toilet paper, then fold it over so it's a doubled layer.
   2. If the toilet paper supplied is thinner, you'll need to tear off a longer piece of toilet paper (up to double the length), then fold it over 3-4 times so it's layered/thicker.
2. I sit down and twist around, using my dominant hand to hold the toilet paper down vertically, so that it directly covers my, er, hole from which I eliminate. Leave some space between your hole and the toilet paper.
3. While continuing to have your arm in back of you, holding the toilet paper in place - do your business. 
4. If you feel like you haven't completely emptied your j-pouch with your arm positioned like this, you can still empty your pouch if you adjust how you're sitting on the toilet. 
   1. Try squatting slightly instead of sitting on the toilet, still holding the toilet paper behind you. (You'll feel some pressure on your knees.)
   2. With taller toilets, I sometimes have to lean forward while squatting because I'm very short. 
   3. A squatty potty/footstool might help. 
      1. Keep in mind that you'll have to be a more careful with where you're "aiming" in either of these position re: backsplash.
5. Chances are, you'll have no or little visible blacksplash on the back of the bowl. This does make it more likely that you'll splash under the rim. But for me being a woman, I prefer less noticeable under-the-rim spots vs. obvious big spots everyone can see!
6. Since you're using extra toilet paper, you may want to flush before wiping. Some of the older toilets can't handle as much toilet paper.

Hope this helps someone. It took me awhile to figure this out. I'll admit that it *feels* better to NOT have to hold my arm behind me. But I've gotten used to it.

Thanks for the TP measurements. We now have Toto Washlets in both bathrooms. I've just been tearing off random amounts of toilet paper and double layering the middle of the pond with the kind of abandon that doesn't always guarantee central location. So far it ain't perfect but I do wipe down occasionally with a Kirkland wipe just to make sure that those damn "only to appear later upon drying spots" are removed. I think the wife just appreciates the efforts as I haven't had any complaints recently. I'm also fortunate that I've been pooping that ideal pancake mix consistency which I am very proud of. Ha! 

My favorite clean up "tool" is the Lysol Dual Action wipe.  (I just ordered and received a year's supply from Walmart.)  One side is textured and the other side smooth.  A brief scrub with the textured side removes the "leftovers".  I use rubber gloves (sometimes).  Other times I just take care to thoroughly wash my hands.  There is no easy answer, I'm afraid.  Lucky me lives alone and NO ONE BUT ME uses my toilet!  Guests use the bathroom which is NOT adjacent to my bedroom.  I never use that bathroom.

Textured disenfectant wipes from Costco to clean the seat and rim. From Costco a big jug of Lysol decanted into a Dollar-Mart spray bottle and sprayed in the toilet bowl every night and scrubbed with a toilet brush in the morning. I'm almost 3 years old (my pouch!) and don't have nighttime trips anymore. Faucets and sink area are wiped with inexpensive rubbing alcohol every morning so it shines. Also remember all around the underside of the toilet rim there is a row of small holes where water comes out when you flush, this needs a good scrubbing. Mold can grow there and plug the little water holes and can lessen the force of water pressure just when you need it most to flush the toilet.

Wow. Are all J-pouchers such extreme germaphobes or just the people responding in this thread.

I just get tired of cleaning the toilet all the time.  Pain in the butt!

Textured disinfectant wipes from Costco to clean the seat and rim. From Costco a big jug of Lysol decanted into a Dollar-Mart spray bottle and sprayed in the toilet bowl every night and scrubbed with a toilet brush in the morning. Faucets and sink area are wiped with inexpensive rubbing alcohol every morning so it shines. Also remember all around the underside of the toilet rim there is a row of small holes where water comes out when you flush, this needs a good scrubbing. Mold can grow there and plug the little water holes and can lessen the force of water pressure just when you need it most to flush the toilet.

If you have this kind of time, maybe you don't really need to go. Did you go through this routine before your J-pouch surgery?

I tend to clean often because I have a bidet.  But, I am reluctant to use all the disinfectants all the time.  

I have a bag and they are messy also. 

I don't worry about it.  It's why they make toilet brushes. 

Lol. 

No two ways about it, poop is a messy affair!

has anybody investigated self-cleaning toilets?  i looked at a so-called intelligent  one, by kohler, and it was love at first flush.  however, it's over 3K$, or was it 4K?  

yup, i thought there were problems with the bag, and then the j, and i don't mean to one-up this conversation, but the k is the worst.  still, wouldn't swap it.  

what's the expression?  shit happens.  take pride that all of us are over-qualified to use it.  yet, i'd like to find a reasonably priced self-cleaning toilet. any suggestions?  janet

I wouldn't invest that kind of money in any toilet unless it came with build in maid service. We have two Toto Washlets now and if nothing else it cleans really well and saves a ton on wipes. Basically the solution is to layer a decent amount of toilet paper over the water but always check for splatter afterwards. It's those damn invisible spots that only show up later after drying that can be a problem. I will sometimes use a wipe to clean places that appear clean just in case. It depends on consistency. I'm a huge fan of pancake batter poop, it never splashes.   

When it gets stained beyond cleaning. 

Buy a new one. 

Toilets are relatively cheap and easy to install. 

4k for a toilet? I saw those. Completely ridiculous.

Unless you are ceo of Amazon or Facebook or any billion dollar company. That's pocket change to them.  We gotta stick to the 100$ toilet. Lol. 

 hey guys I didn’t say I bought it! I just said I fell in love with it. Check it out it’s really cool technology. Maybe we should put our collective brains together and design one but only allow people with our conditions to buy it. Unfortunately, the price would be higher than the Kohler toilet. Alas, no justice in this world. 

True that.