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Hi there everyone. I am new to this forum. I've been reading religiously as we prepared for my daughter's treatment plant snd everyone has been so informative. I could really use some advice for my teenage daughter.

The past 9 months have just been such a struggle for my 15 year-old daughter. She developed UC after a bout of pancreatitis in May 2015. (I have UC too, currently being controlled by double-doses of remicade.) 

Anyway, she went through all the melamine drugs, Uceris and then prednisone. Nothing worked so we tried Remicade which also didn't work. Due to the pancreatitis, should could not go on 6MP and she wouldn't have had the time to wait for it to be effective anyway. The UC got progressively worse, really quickly, during the Fall 2015. After two trips to the emergency room, massive doses of Remicade and Solumedrol (IV prednisone) we decided the only option was surgery.  We saw three docs at Mt. Sinai NYC and they all confirmed that there was not hope for her colon. She was out of medical options.

She had her sub-total colectomy in December and her j-pouch created with take down two weeks ago at Mt. Sinai. This was two surgeries total, not three. Docs, nurses, everyone were wonderful. She hated the ileostomy. So glad to be done with it. 

In hospital recovery was fine but now she has had a series of problems: butt burn, which she's cleared up with ILEX. And now there is a terrible burning in her rectal canal right after she goes that is very debilitating. Of course she has the cramps that come with the growing J-pouch but I think she can handle that. She also has some nocturnal incontinence. It's this terrible rectal pain that is have a terrible impact.

She is trying sits baths but they only helped a little, is on advil and percoset.

She is being schooled from home right now via tutors from the school but that is such a struggle now and she is falling further behind. Additionally, she is withdrawing further from her friends and social life. 

I am so worried about her physically and emotionally. 

Any thoughts on (a) physical remedies and (b) a support group for teens?

Thanks so much. 

Mommy

 

 

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Hi Mommy,

I also had a J Pouch done in 2 steps at Mount Sinai, and also hated the ileostomy.  The butt burn is usually temporary, in my case it lasted around 9 months.  After removal of the colon the stool I believe is more alkalaine until eventually The J Pouch adapts.  My butt burn gradually tapered at the 9 month mark or maybe a little more.  In the interim I relieved heavily on various zinc oxide barrier creams on the market with the ideal % of zinc oxide around 13% or so.  If it is too thick it will caulk the butt cheeks together and you can't get it out.  If too thin and creamy, it will just wipe away every time she goes to the bathroom.

If she was in Mount Sinai she likely had a good surgeon and aftercare and they could recommend to her a good ointment.

Good luck to her.  Things will get better.

CTBarrister

Some people swear by fiber supplements to thicken the stool and reduce the burning effect. She can insert some barrier cream into the anal canal too, but careful with the Ilex (don't want to glue it shut!). Ask about lidocaine topical to help with the butt/anal pain.

I would caution against the use of Advil for pain, as studies show that use of NSAIDs in the post op period is associated with the development of chronic pouchitis. Plus, it can backfire by causing gut irritation and more pain. 

When she feels better she should be encouraged to see her friends. In the meantime, does she keep in touch through social media? You can encourage her to come here to vent too. She should not feel alone in this. 

Jan

Jan Dollar

Mommy, my son also had UC.  I feel your pain and that if your daughter's.  It's really tough for anyone going through this, but especially hard for teenage girls.  She needs to mourn the loss and the changes to her body.  It's going to be okay.  But telling her that won't work.  She needs to discover this for herself.  My son was diagnosed at age 6 and had his colon removed at age 23.  It will be two years in June.  I told him that he is not his disease.  Do let it control you, or define you.  It is what it is, and you have two choices.  Let it take over your mind and distroy you or live your life and know that you are not going to let this take over.  She has been through a lot right now and needs to go through the grieving stages.  Tell her it's okay.  But you are however old she is and you have to make adjustments.  Life goes on any way you chose it.  It's going to be a struggle for her t this time in her life.  My son wanted nothing to do with thenisto you, I had to take care of it all, but it presented a good time to for us to have some really good talks.  He got through it.  He just had his second take down at the end of January and things are going much much better.  By the way we are being treated at Weill Cornell.  Try not to let her to fall into a deep and dark hole.  But as moms, we don't let them do that!  Good luck to both of you!

Jeffsmom

Mommy, Jan's advice about lidocaine and topically applying remedies inside the anal canal are your daughter's best bet. I used Gold Bond medicated ointment for itch and burn both inside and out, but it had menthol which had a definite "Wow!!" moment associated with it - but 30 seconds to a minute later and all was better. My surgeon gave me a compounded ointment Rx that had lidocaine and several other ingredients and it was wonderfully soothing. 

The idea of getting medicine into the anal canal can be daunting for some; some use gloves, some use finger "gloves," and some just wash their hands really good after. But the relief it will bring is worth it.

Also, the burn will get better with time. Taking antacids or PPI's might also help reduce acidity and burn but long term use may alter the gut bacteria - with positive or negative affects. 

Steve

ElmerFudd

This hit home for me as I was 17 when I had my surgery and in hs. I was so happy to get rid of the ostomy but the first few years with the pouch were not what I was expecting. Has  been checked for a ln anal fissure? Had one myself for years that would only get slightly better using steroids. Then I was prescribed nifedipine paste and it made all the difference. Occasionally I will still get a little burning but the paste relieves it right away and my fissure has been gone for years. The pain from it was horrendous and baths really only helped when in the bath. Pain would come back as soon as I got out. Was on lortab and that helped a little but it was difficult to time it for right before I went to the bathroom. I hope your daughter can get relief soon. If she stops the narcotics Lomitol really helped me when I did because it continued to slow things down and give me time to heal and stopped any side effects from discontinuing the narcotics. 

MNpoucher

Thanks so much to everyone for their thoughts and feedback. My daughter had a CT-scan -- two of them actually -- and her pouch is totally normal. Turns out this was all recovery related issues. I think after the second scan she had much more confidence that she is actually getting better and is no longer a 'sick' person. In fact yesterday she said she "felt really good." That is the first time I have heard her say that in 5 months!

Hopefully the move back to her regular old teenage life will continue. 

Thanks again.

BM

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