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I have a question about partial blockage and continued pain and bloating afterwards and what that may mean. I was in Jerusalem about two weeks ago and on the 10+ hour flight back had a pretty painful blockage that eventually moved through a few hours before we landed. I've historically had partial blockages but not more than one or two a year - usually due to something I knew I shouldn't have eaten, but they pass through with some solid walking, hot liquids, and lying on my side, then I'm back to normal. But this time after everything cleared out when I landed, I've had continued issues for the last 2 weeks. Significantly less bowel movements and eating solid foods means I can feel every bit of movement in my intestines and j-pouch. Every time I eat anything more than semi-liquid, I start getting painfully bloated, and although most of it will eventually pass through (again, often with hot liquids, walking, and lying on my side) it's begun to concern me since it is not going away.

 

Is this a possible stricture or something? I thought it might have been something I ate in Jerusalem initially, but nothing has changed for the past two weeks. I've been searching and reading the boards as much as I can, but have never had any major issues since my j-pouch and take down about 6 years ago - so I'm not really familiar with the symptoms. I'm on a semi-liquid diet now (smoothies, oatmeal, etc) and I'm still able to work (fairly physical job at an airport), but I still can notice discomfort as things pass through my system.

 

I'm leaning towards visiting a GI, but am not sure what exactly to schedule since I've honestly not been to the doctor but once since my surgery (all my money goes to school  right now). Should I schedule a flexible sigmoidoscopy to get things looked at? Or will I need a specific pouchoscopy? Will I need to make sure the GI dotor I meet with knows about jpouches before I schedule anything? I'm in a smaller city, so I'm not sure any GI's will have much experience with my jpouch, which makes me a bit nervous about having a procedure done. I'm also very unfamiliar with whether insurance will cover any of this either, and have been trying to research that part.

 

Sorry for the slew of questions, but I'd appreciate any thoughts or advice from people with more experience than me. Thanks!

 

My history: had a two-part jpouch surgery in 2010 (Colectomy with ileostomy in Jan - had a few complications with an abcess, and then a smooth takedown in May) due to FAP, no real problems besides a few partial blockages since then.

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You are probably due a pouchoscopy anyway.  It's the same thing as a flex sig with our pouches.  I'm guessing your insurance would pay for it if it pays for colonoscopies. I've had small bowel studies that might be a good test too.  You drink barium, use a straw, and they take x-rays every so many minutes to capture how your small intestines are looking.  At the end it also shows up in the pouch. The barium water looks white, like bones do, in the x-rays and they can see if there are kinks, strictures or other problems up stream from your j-pouch.

 

My local GI said anyone in his firm could do the scopes but I live in a larger community. He performed the first scope I had and caught cuffitis and c.diff from it.  I hope you are feeling better soon.

TE Marie

I would get in to see a local GI based on your symptoms for at least a consult. You need follow up for your FAP anyway, so see if you can find someone who deals with that. I think the FAP knowledge is more important that the j-pouch knowledge IMO. For a scope, they usually schedule it as a sigmoidoscopy, but you don't need the big prep. My GI uses a pediatric endoscopy scope, not a sigmoidoscope, because it is more maneuverable than the thicker sigmoidoscope.

 

If you have these periodic partial obstructions, it is not likely due to what you eat, than due to narrowing from adhesions from your surgeries. As your gut moves around, the adhesions can cause kinking, making it more difficult for roughage to pass. Since you have more lingering symptoms this time, you need some follow up. Some simple x-rays can rule out anything major. Anyway, all the more reason to get the GI consult so that he can figure out how to sort this out.

 

Good luck, and I hope you feel better soon!

 

Jan

Jan Dollar

You can't really get a "flex sig," because you don't have a sigmoid colon any more. You can get a pouchoscopy, though. Some doctors might use a flexible sigmoidoscope to do it. As Jan mentioned, even that is unlikely, since a pediatric endoscope is better suited to explore a J-pouch. They might bill it as a flex sig, and they might casually (carelessly?) tell you to use the same prep as a flex sig.

Scott F

How much better is it for the GI to use a pediatric endoscopy scope vs. a flex sig scope? From what I can tell, it looks like they'd do the pouchoscopy with the flex sig scope since they don't deal with pediatric patients at the same place. I'm still waiting to hear back from the local doctor if he's willing/able to do a pouchoscopy and/or has any experience with FAP and jpouches, but would it be a better idea to try to go to a major city? I work for an airline, so I can fly to Dallas within the hour at no cost. Should I try to find a GI there who has more specialized experience with FAP and jpouches?

Y

A pouchoscopy can definitely help rule out pouch issues and narrowing right above the pouch, but diagnosing a blockage, especially the cause of a blockage, is tricky.  CTs or abdominal MRIs can give a pretty good idea of what is going on (when you're having an actual problem), but residual pain/discomfort can last for awhile so sometimes nothing will show up.  For me personally, I have dealt with many obstructions, but until I was opened up for surgery to find all of the adhesion bands causing the issues, the doctors couldn't rule out inflammation and strictures from Crohn's.  You can have upper and lower scopes done to help create the bigger picture of what is going on, but again, those can be misleading if everything has been aggravated from an obstruction that was there that has passed.  

 

To your immediate question though...yes, symptoms can last for a long time afterward and to Jan's point, there could be an issue that hasn't fully cleared up.  Multiple times I have been in the hospital for obstructions, gone home for a couple weeks, then ended up right back there again.

 

Hope you get it figured out!

clz81

I have to ask yellafella37, how do you know that you are having a blockage or have had a few of them since your surgery since you have rarely been back to a doctor? I am just wondering exactly what your symptoms are. I am wondering if perhaps I might be having blockages occur but don't know. The pain and bloating starts shortly after eating and then the bloating becomes extremely localized to the area where my stoma was. It is almost as if I have a golf ball inside of me moving around up and down. I have wondered if it is just gas or a blockage of food, my stomach just moves up and down and the pain continues until the bloating goes down sometimes with a bowel movement or it just seems to gradually lessen and go away. My body has been known to make a lot of scar tissue and just recently it has occurred to me that there could be scar tissue there as that is where the bowel was re-connected during takedown. My colectomy was one year ago and my takedown last November and my body is just not adjusting to this at all. I have lost all the weight I gained during the time I had a PICC line in during my last surgery and I cannot identify any foods as good foods that I digest well. I have had a pouchoscopy and no pouchitis. The way I am visualizing this is that there is no way a pouchoscopy can show you what is going on that far up, near the stoma. As someone suggested I am guessing it would have to be a CT or MRI. I did have the barium test after the colectomy but before the takedown; drinking the barium and the pictures being taken every 15 minutes or so. All was good then to proceed with the takedown. I am seeing my GI dr next Tuesday and will bring up my symptoms to him. Hoping he has some thoughts on this to get it figured out. I am not sure anything can be done about scar tissue as usually more surgery results in more scar tissue. Has anyone dealt with scar tissue?

J

I've been having partial obstructions a few times a year for about 3 years.  Had my surgeries in 1995/1996.  I went to see Dr. Bo Shen at the Cleveland Clinic in June.  I will never go anywhere else again!  He is a GI who specializes in the J-Pouch.  Every patient I met there had the same system as I do, which is highly unusual, as you all know.  He did a pouchoscopy and did go all the way through the stoma area.  If they identify strictures, they can "balloon" them during the pouchoscopy.  He is an outstanding doctor, so if you can afford the trip, I highly recommend the visit.  There is a long wait list, though, so best to call early.  I did not have strictures, so he recommended I follow the low FODMAP diet.  It has reduced my symptoms by about 80%.  However, I did just have another partial obstruction last week, but I know it was because I ate too much bulk (kale) at one time.  Hope this is helpful.

christine m

Christine- thank you for your post.  When I had my J-Pouch, Dr. Shen was the doctor to see.  He is wonderful and I -like you- recommend him for any J-Poucher. Unfortunately my J-Pouch was failing, so I opted for a K-Pouch and I love it.  I also appreciate the advice on a FODMAP diet. Although I have been lucky enough (thus far) to not suffer from obstructions or pouchitis, I keep the FODMAP in the back of my mind.  Good to know it helped you.  All the best-Kara

 

 

Kara Fred

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