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Hello, I've been dealing with a perennial abscess since July 2014. I had a drainage tube placed in for two weeks and was on flagl and cipro.  I had to go back into the hospital December 28th and had another tube placed in again until I went into the ER January 12th and had the tube removed and had it lanced again but this time with an open wound. I am on Cipro (currently still taking) and Amoxicillin only for one week. Yet again its building up and now I'm told I don't have much options. They are going to try meds first, then if that does not help then they will create an ileostomy to see if it will heal on its own. Apparently they are saying I have stool leaking into the cavity causing the abscess and its very high up to where the tube is not working. If that does not heal I will have to remove my Jpouch. Im confused because I had cat scan after cat scan and at first they said I had no fistulas and now they said I do and Im going for another cat scan Saturday. Has anyone had the same issues and what was done for you? I don't want to lose my pouch. I am wondering if there are other options than the ones given to me. Maybe looking for a second opinion.  Thanks for any input.

 

 

 

 

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Hi, Yes I still had a mushroom cap kinda tube placed in while the abscess built up again. At my next appointment on February 12th, I will be discussing my next step with a few doctors along with my surgeon, I can ask about the Seton drain. I see the Seton drain reaches quite a range of area. My abscess is very high/deep in so he says it lessons any options for me. I can only ask and find out more available options for me. I'm new to all this and I'm not familiar to how it all works so the more research the more questions I can ask. I appreciate your input. Thanks!

Lisa Ann

Narrowing is causing your perennial abscess. Changing diet can cure your perennial abscess and the narrowing. What you should do: eat a lot of Banana, applesauce (do it by yourself at home the whole apple even with the skin), grinded flax seeds, and grinded almonds, drink a lot of water. Sorry for my bad English but really if I was you I will not remove my jpouch for this reason. It is curable without surgery. Very long time ago happened to me but not anymore.

D
Thanks! I didn't know my diet could have an affect on it. I know I can't do the apples with skin on because it causes a blockage for me.  I can't digest the skin of the apple. I already have flax seed in my diet. I will look into that. I'm open to all options and if nessesary I will go for a second and third opinion if my surgeon has no other options for me.
Lisa Ann
I had a fistula leading to abcess at site of jpouch connection. Was on antibiotics for 3 years. Part of my problem was no one could find the hole. Once it was found I had surgery done to make the hole larger. The idea being that waste would get in the hole/fistula and create an abcess because it couldn't get out. The surgery made the hole larger allowing any waste that got in to flow back out. That was almost 4 years ago. My surgeon is retired but I believe a similar procedure is done at Cleveland clinic.
S
Yes! That's exactly what they are telling me is that waste is getting into a pocket! I'm taking high doses of antibiotics right now.  I did read about someone else having a similar issue and they were also at the Cleveland Clinic where they fixed the problem. I'm in Chicago but if I need a second opinion I'm leaning towards The Cleveland Clinic first. Thank you for your input! I'm glad I'm hearing more positive outcomes no matter how long the struggle may be.
Lisa Ann

Yes, Dr. Shen at the Cleveland Clinic performs what is called a needle-knife procedure, performed endoscopically, to lay open a sinus tract or fistula (depending on where it goes). It can avoid open surgery, but usually takes multiple treatments. I don't know where else this is done. You could probably call them and the advice nurse might be able to tell you if a GI near you has adopted this procedure.

http://my.clevelandclinic.org/.../edigest-spring-2012

 

Here is a link to a video of Dr. Shen explaining it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqGj-vcQ4nQ

 

Jan

Jan Dollar
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The procedure I had was done by Dr Rombeau in Philadelphia. He has since retired. He spoke with another surgeon, Dr Kiran, before he did the surgery who used to be at Cleveland Clinic and is now in New York City. My surgery was not the needle knife. For my surgery the surgeon opened the hole larger and stapled it to stay open. He had admittedly never done it before. Dr Kiran, and others, may be familiar with my variation of the surgery.
S
Sorry for not replying sooner. My abscess has flared up again. It seems to be draining. The inscision is still slightly opened so its able to drain some. Thank you both for the information and Jan for posting the link.  I'm going to contact The Cleveland Clinic to discuss my issue with a surgeon to see what my options are. I just want the ileostomy to be my last resort if I can avoid it. Its been 7months and three surgeries and I'm just frustrated. Thank you again for the positive feedback. I feel there's some kind of hope.

Lisa
Lisa Ann

Lisa Ann, my thoughts are to make every effort to keep your j-pouch.  If it turns out that removal of your pouch is necessary, there are continent ostomy options available, namely the k pouch and the  BCIR, that avoid having an external bag and its associated issues.  Cleveland Clinic does k pouches and they could provide information on these options.  I wish you the best on whatever you decide.

Bill

BillV

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