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Steve's recent poll regarding anemia led me to think about a cause of iron deficiency anemia that most of us, and many MDs, are unaware of or have forgotten. That is the long term use of proton pump inhibitors to reduce stomach acid, reflux, and acid diarrhea. It would seem like a treatment without any downside.

However, besides the fact that they can lead to vitamin B-12 deficiency (due to malabsorption) and C-difficile infections, they also can cause iron deficiency anemia because iron is less well absorbed without the acid environment. The impact is not huge with the proton pump inhibitor, but if you already run low in your iron stores, it could be enough to drive you down into the clinical range.

So, if other causes, such as occult blood loss and inadequate intake, have been ruled out, you need to rethink chronic use of proton pump inhibitors. It is never as simple as we would like it to be...

http://www.clinicalcorrelations.org/?p=7828

Jan Smiler

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Interesting. I never took them. My former GI doc was always trying to push Nexium on me but I never took it. I can't seem to nip this anemia. It's chronic. The only thing that helps me are the iron infusions and it's getting old fast. Oral iron does nothing. I try not to complain because my j pouch is fine and works great but it's been almost 10 years now of being anemic and it's pretty disheartening.
mgmt10
I am anemic and have tried slow iron and iron that is supposedly easily absorbed recently and have had terrible nights with my J pouch, up every 1/2 hour sometimes. rebe suggested liver pills so I am trying that. The other option which I did several years ago was iron transfusions but it only lasts a while. I play singles tennis almost every day and the doctors say that is almost impossible with my iron level. I really don't get that tired, except from being up every 1.5 hrs at night going to the bathroom which happens quite a bit but not from the iron. attribute it to my type A personality that it hasn't affected me more.
C
Been having malabsorption problems since surgery I am down to a few meds when needed and not doing anything daily. For my anemia I know its from the protonix so i stopped taking it daily. Iron pills tended to mess me up. My cure for myself is calcium fortified juices and foods that break down quick with lots of it (ground beef lamb, HBd eggs, oatmeal, peanut butter and lactose free milk) everyones different. Im medically retiring from military in 2 months yet ironically got a contract with KBR to work in the restand up of The US bases in Iraq (I love protecting people and it pays 150k a year Wink
A
Beckysmom,few
She might want to try the dessicated liver pills that have been around since I was a kid...pretty close to tasteless (look out for the smell though) and more or less easy to swallow. I also used to do 'milkshakes' with raw eggs (I know, some people are against them but still...Been doing it for years), dessicated liver tablets, kelp, lecitin, B6 and tons or other goodies...lived the best part of my teen years on this stuff...use whatever liquids that will camoflage the taste and smell then blend....we used orange juice at the time (added honey too) but whatever floats her boat is fine...
You get the iron, B6 and lots of other goodies with the digestive difficulties.
Sharon
ps. In Canada, at Costco, there is a Behind the Counter iron supplement called Eurofer that seems to work a whole lot better than all of the others that we have tried.
I have a group of girlfriends who had subclinical levels and have been on it for a few years with great success.
skn69
When I first had my j-pouch, I was horribly anemic all the time, but I have gradually over the years gotten much better. One thing I am doing now is using Arbonne chocolate shakes. I mix them with banana, peanut butter, and spinach. I put that together with water or almond milk. You cannot even taste the spinach but get all the iron benefits from it. And because it is finely blended it is better absorbed.
HH
I've struggled with anemia on and off since my UC diagnosis. As far as iron supplements go, I've had the best luck with ferrous fumarate, taken at bedtime (as per the recommendation of the pharmacist). There are no gastrointestinal side effects to report. The only side effect is a temporary blackening of the stool.

BTW, I don't currently take PPIs nor have I ever taken them long term.
Spooky
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So since being diagnosed as anemic (11.1 HG) around 3-4 weeks ago, I have stopped all NSAIDs and have been taking ferrous sulfate 1-2 times a day (when I can remember). I did a blood draw on Wed. and am up to 12.5 - so headed in the right direction.

Not sure if it was the NSAIDs, the PPI, or both. By cutting the NSAIDs and adding the iron supplements, I am not able to narrow it down.

But I have read that yes - PPIs can reduce iron absorption both due to the reduced acidity, and because it can cause B12 levels to drop (and low B12 can also lead to anemia). Haven't tested my B12 since all of this started. Discussing with a GI next week.

Steve
ElmerFudd
When I developed pouchitis my GI told me as long as I had my pouch not to take any nsaids. He said that would make the ulcers in my pouch form or become even worse. I haven't taken any in over a year. I just had blood drawn for my surgery. I am having pouch removed in two weeks and going to an end ileo. My HCT was 40.3 and hemoglobin was 13.3 which is fine. I hope you are able to find a way to get your blood count up.
HH
Holly - as Jan said, it's never as simple as we want it to be. NSAID's are taken for chronic lumbar fasciitis and fibromyalgia. I'm also on Lyrica, which does seem to help, but NSAID's have become somewhat of a mainstay for pain too. Obviously, I know it's not good for my stomach or pouch - just a matter of deciding which is worse.

Regarding PPI's or other acid reducers taken on a daily basis, I think for me PPI's have been #1 on my list of pouch-helpers. Once on them, I have stopped the every few week issues with my pouch (good pouch / bad pouch syndrome Smiler ). So I hate to give up taking them as well.

My #1 issue is not having a one-stop shop, so to speak, with addressing these many needs. I may look into that with an internist in a few months. I would love to have everything consolidated with someone who really listens to me Smiler

Steve
ElmerFudd

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