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So, I have been battling chronic pouchitis for about 2 years now, on rotating antibiotics (levoquin & Rifaxin) and varying doses of entorcort for the past 18 months (taper this down, but then I flare, so up it back up to 9mg to get under control, try to taper down again,etc.). I flared in October, so in November went back up to 9mg Entorcort, kept rotating antibiotics, and added daily cortisone suppositories to my regimin, which did the trick. But even keeping the ABs and the high dose of Entocort, everytime I try to reduce down to every other day on the suppositiories, I get bad. My situation is complicated due to damaged sphincter muscles from my fistula surgery.

I am heading back to Mayo in a couple weeks for scope, lab, and consult, and the nurse mentioned 2 things-possibly a slower taper off from the cort steroids-go from 7/week to 6/week, etc. to see if I can get off them, or we may need to consider "escalating the medication" which I assume probably means Remicade (from what I've read).

I had UC back in the day where azulfadine and prednizone were my only options, so these biologics are new to me. If my options are as above, I am inclined to maybe request trying some different ABs and give a longer taper from the Cort steroids a chance first. I will ask at my appointment, but they have said staying on the cort steroids long term as maintenace therapy is not a good idea because of the risk of "thinning"-I am not sure what that means, and am curious if others have used cort steroids for long periods of time, at what dose and for how long? if any problems? etc.

I've tried to do some reading on Remicade and pouchitis, but there is not a lot out there. It seems that once I start it, if it is effective, I should not discontinue treatment, because if I ever need it again (and with 2 years of chronic refractory pouchitis, I assume I will) it may not work, AND even if I stay on it, it stops working for most people at some point (and of course, has risks of infection, lymphoma, etc.). When I had a colon, we threw everything at it to stave off surgery for the longest period of time, and I guess I am mostly in that same mindset here. Hoping beyond hope that if I can buy more time, that Remi or Humira, or something new, or worm therapy, or fecal transplant or SOMETHING will come along that is a better option, TO ME, than a perm ostomy. As much as I hate the idea, I know that someday if/when my quality of life sux badly enough, it is a decision, I may have to make, but I am not ready for it now.

(I also take lots of fiber, immodium, and codiene daily to thicken stool, and have a spinal cord stimulator to help with incontinence, but it doesn't help when the stool is too loose, which is what this pouchitis causes, even when on all those thickeners...)

So-any experiences with long term cort steroids and/or remicade as pouch treatment are requested, along with any questions I should be asking my Mayo Doc (Pending my insurance approval-don't you hate insurance nightmares?!?). Thanks!

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Simponi should be approved for UC soon, as it was submitted for FDA approval more than 6 months ago. http://www.jnj.com/connect/new...e-ulcerative-colitis

It has been in use for RA and spondylitis for a number of years. I've been taking it for a few years for my enterpathic arthritis, and my GI has said my pouch and cuff have never looked so good when scoped. I can't remember the last time I had any rectal cuff bleeding.

Here is what I like about it:

Compared to Remicade, it is a fully humanized protein instead of mouse based (less risk of allergic reaction or antibody formation). Plus it is by injection you can do yourself, instead of IV infusions in the office setting. I never had to try Remicade, and I am glad.

Compared to Humira, they are both fully humanized protein, and given by injection. I took Humira for a few years, but had a few complaints. The injections sting, and for me, weekly injections were needed. This made traveling more difficult, as they need refrigeration. But, it did help with my arthritis, so I put up with minor issues.

Simponi does not sting during injection, at least not for me, and it is only a monthly injection. My arthritis is controlled about the same as with Humira, but my pouch has been in better shape.

The costs are about the same overall, but Remicade involves office visits and whatever costs you incur for that. All of them require blood test every three months for monitoring.

Jan Smiler
Jan Dollar
I had chronic Pouchitis for 10 years and was on all sorts of meds, UC meds and antibiotics. The last flare was so bad I was offer pouch removal or remicade. I choose the remi but only did 2 infusions cause I got very very sick on it and damn took 3 months to leave my system. BUT, those 2 infusions put me into remission and it's been almost three years. I take lots of inflammatory vitamins and canassa at night which my GI said I can stop but I'm afraid. Good luck, I hope it works for you but know that even if it doesn't it still can on a limited dose.
AllyKat

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