sibo fodmap diet pouchitis and all that other stuff

so what types of carbs does it cut out?

bread and potatoes?

Kate's diet is designed for people with colons. It is very important to modify the diet to what does not cause you pain or bloating. Some of things I cannot eat on her diet: buckwheat, cabbage, chia seeds, oat bran and bamboo shoots. Everyone is different so listen to your body and keep a food journal. I switched to Sue Shephard's guidelines because I was having a lot of pain. Kate's recipes are better but I was sick of having any pain.

Hi

Struggling with SIBO also it sucks. I did try the paleo diet but it contains too much vegetables etc and costs a fortune!! I am embarking on FODMAP again as the rotating antibiotics are not working so well any more and causing thrush. SOme of the FODMAP foods have changed since a few years ago. Some nuts are limited to just 10 nuts, chamomile/fennel tea are out etc So hoping if I stick to FODMAP and cut out sugar I hope to improve. I does make sense that high FODMAP foods are not good for j-pouchers as they are not absorbed in the small intestine and therefore cause diarrhea. the Monash University have a new a great app and also have updates on their site of recently tested foods. http://www.med.monash.edu/cecs...fodmap/diet-updates/
Anybody have anymore tips?

Cabbage and buckwheat (oligos) are both out on fodmap . Oat bran 2 tablespoon are usually tolerated but 5 tablespoons contain high amounts of oligos. Chia seeds 2 tablespoons is low fodmap but large servings 4 tblsp is high in oligos. Maybe j-pouchers cannot tolerate as much?
agree Kates scarlata foodcheck list is great for having handy when food shopping.

Thanks for posting this. As with the other posters questions exist in my mind looking at not only this diet but other ones as well. The SIBO fodmap diet actually seems less restrictive than the Paleo Diet which disallows grains and processed foods. However I recently read different books which have difference spins on the Paleo Diet, some allowing things that others do not allow, some applying a specific Paleo regimen for autoimmune disease, which restricts eggs, which I really don't understand, and the so-called nightshade family of vegetables.

Recently, I cooked the banana bread recipe posted on the UMass IBD diet, which I think Liz previously gave a link to. I noticed that some of the breads on this diet called for almond flour while others allowed all purpose flour. I have no explanation for this inconsistency. In any event the banana bread I made was with almond flour, baking soda, chopped walnuts, eggs, pure organic vanilla, cinnamon, nutmeg, greek yogurt, honey, and mashed ripe bananas. It came out pretty good. One of my coworkers complained that it wasn't sweet enough for her even though I used 4 ounces of honey as per the recipe. The almond flour, a 1 pound bag, I got on sale at the Big Y for $10. It does give the bread a slightly different taste. I am going to try to make some other breads with almond flour. Because it's the only way I can satisfy my desire for a bread product that passes muster under both Paleo and UMass dietary regimens.

My son follows a version of scd/paleo/fodmop.

He recently experimented with asparagus and had his first real stomach pain in a long time. Has anyone else had trouble with that? He does not eat dairy and he does eat potatoes. This diet has helped his bms become more formed.

One of the permitted veggies on the SIBO Fodmap diet is parsnips. To me the parsnip is a very underrated vegetable. It is similar to carrots, yet not nearly as popular, despite having a sweeter taste, and one would think on a diet like this the naturally sweeter tastes would be more pleasing. I like the sweet taste. What I do with parsnips is peel them, chop them up, toss them with a little olive oil, salt and pepper, and roast them for about 40 minutes at 425 degrees. They are a veggie that is very high in potassium and they should be given a chance. For some reason people only seem to use them in soups, and I think they should be given more respect than that as they taste good on their own.

On the other hand avocadoes do not seem allowed on this diet, which is a big disappointment.

I've found some triggers for me doing a FODMAP/SIBO elimination.

That being said, on this list, I cannot eat: quinoa (blocked me fiercely), corn, sprouts, bamboo shoots, water chestnuts (will not break down), anything raw citrus, nuts in anything more than about 10 at a time.

This is why any diet is trial and elimination for any of us, and not clear cut.

I was under the impression, based on the FODMAP book, that buckwheat was acceptable.

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corn, sprouts, bamboo shoots, water chestnuts (will not break down)

I think it's pretty common that people with J Pouches have trouble digesting these foods, which brings up another issue, which is that just because it is permissible to be eaten does not mean it should be eaten. For me, water chestnuts are virtually completely indigestible as well, and I have always picked them out of dishes at Chinese restaurants. I kind of find them to be tasteless anyway, so I don't feel like I am missing anything.

well i had an interesting experience (actually horrible really) i had a receipe for almond flour pancakes..it required a cup of almond flour..but it only made four pancakes so i stupidly just had the four..everything else pretty neutral,eggs ,vanilla,baking soda a little honey..had at night woke up in morning about 7 a.m and continued to need to go o bathroom until 9pm that night must have gone25 or 30 times..it just seemed constant..i was exhausted and drained..haven`t had anything like that side i had pouch operation..thank goodness i had pedialik in house to drink..forgot to mention everything that came out was green...


next day i was a rag but it went back to a more or less typical day about 8 to 10 times maybe less

all i could conclude is a cup of almond flour jut had to much fiber and i was paying a dear price..actually it brought to mind me eating some cookies from digestive wellness with almond flour and honey and although i did not pig out i had issues there after..

i am staying away from honey and almond flour for now..

Just 1 serving or 1/4 cup Buckwheat kernels is medium on scales for oligos, more than that is high and should be avoided. 1/8 cup cup is considered low fodmap.

I was making the same mistake with almonds (ground) using it too much and didn't realise the servings was way too high in fodmaps

winter wish yep i think that was the problem..so no more than 1/8 to 1/4 of almond flour hmmm.that says do not overdo almond flour..you know i seem to remember at on time doing better with it but its clear to me finally it does not work for me now..have not made an almond bread in long time from my scd book but if i do one slice will be it..

thanks
rebe

10 almonds (12g) is ok but 20 almonds (24g) is high on FODMAPS! not much would better eating Gluten free bread, here is a recipe for zucchini bread

http://glutenfreegoddess.blogs.../zucchini-bread.html

Has anyone tried sorghum flour? I see it in the gluten free section of the Supermarket and I read that it is gaining popularity in the USA, especially as an ingredient for gluten-free breads like banana or zucchini bread. I was thinking of retrying my banana bread recipe that calls for almond flour, this time using sorghum flour. Sorghum flour is about 1/3 the price of almond flour, and it is also cheaper than coconut flour, but I do not know what it adds to the quality of the bread except perhaps adding a milder flavor and smoother texture.

I you have a Vitamix you can make your own Almond flour, as needed out of raw almonds. This is true for any of the other's talked about. (Although you aren't doing sugar, you can make powdered sugar out of regular sugar for another example.)

I was on a gluten free diet years ago and found this helpful because then you don't have leftover almond flour to use up.

FYI - We also make our own peanut butter - don't know if that's on this diet or not.