Hi Everyone I will soon be in your club!! I was wondering if anyone uses liners and with what system can they be used with, with my two previous temps I used Hollister 2 piece,also has anyone tried different belts and which one do they recommend. I want to have all my supplies for the trip home. I know Jason used C & M and they have some good products, Can anyone tell me what they use? Also they have a vacuum type apparatus for swimming, anyone? Thanks Ed

Early welcome to the club Ed. I'm a recent member as of Oct 07.
I wear a 2 piece hollister system.
during the day I wear a belt i got 7 years ago when i had my temp, its about 6 inches wide and they have custom openings based on the size of your wafer. the supplier was edgepark and i think the manufacturer was convatec or coloplast (sp?)i don't really remember but i'll be looking into it soon since i want to get a spare one.
At night I wear the belt from hollister they look cheap only being about an inch wide but it gives me a good fit at night and keeps my wafer secure.
i'm not sure a liner is and i haven't heard of the vacuum type for water. maybe someone else can tell us about that.

Scott

Hi Ed,

I've used liners with the 2-piece Hollister. My ostomy nurse said they work with any 2-piece system, but that they are a better fit for the small and medium size wafers.

I liked the liners; I kept a second bag ready with a liner, so I could put it on as soon as I removed the first bag. The nurse also mentioned keeping a small piece of paper towel moistened with vinegar in the bag-in-waiting to help with odor control.

The only problem I had was my stoma was so active it was sometimes messy to change bags.

However, I've stopped using the liners since I've started "swishing" the bag clean.

You'll have to try the liners yourself to see which system you prefer.

From what I can work out, flushable liners are really only an advantage for those who have a colostomy and use closed pouches, they can just take out the liners, flush them, insert a new liner and they're set to go.

For those of us with ileostomies who use drainable pouches, I would say liners are a waste of time and money. We just undo the end of our bags, drain into the loo, do the bag up and we're set to go. What is the advantage in using a liner?

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Also they have a vacuum type apparatus for swimming, anyone?

Can you explain what you mean by the vacuum type apparatus? In 32 years I've just used my normal bag (and no one's been any the wiser - they've never been able to see it under my bathing suit).

Hi Shaz,It is a cover that goes around your waist and has a little bulb pump which takes out all the air forming a vacuum seal around your bag, I saw it on the ostomy supply site. Thanks Ed

Ed, I don't think that using the vacuum type apperatus is a good idea for long periods because it would impede the function of your ileostomy. I think they are designed for short periods only such as keeping the bag dry when you shower etc rather than to use as a belt.

I agree with Shaz regading the liners. They are a waste of time and money are were designed for colostomists who's output is more like a normal bowel movement and much less frequent, not watery and high output like our ileostomies tend to be. I find that swishing with a little water helps to empty things better when my output is too thick.

It's definately a learning curve isn't it?

Shell

Thanks Shell,it is mentally stressing knowing you could have to deal with an ostomy the rest of your life,but I have little quality now. Thanks Ed